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After a tense Oval Office encounter with Donald Trump and JD Vance, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy received a warm UK welcome, including an official audience with King Charles at Sandringham.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer convened a defence summit with European and NATO allies to reaffirm solidarity with Ukraine, discuss unlocking frozen Russian assets, and counter the rift caused by Trump’s accusations of Zelenskyy’s ingratitude.

European leaders fear the spat endangers Western unity and peace efforts and are vowing no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukrainian involvement.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

It’s interesting that conservative circles are lauding Trump for removing the US from wars in “matters that don’t concern us”. Their take, not mine.

And yet. All of this feels like a seismic shift prefacing going to war.

Even the first term I always had the sense Trump wanted to play with war toys. Akin to him acting like a little boy playing with toy truck when behind the wheel of a construction vehicle. Now he’s more erratic than ever before, and has the people around him willing to do his bidding.

And this is not an administration that would hesitate to draft people.

[–] oKtosiTe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a seismic shit

Despite the tone of this thread, this made me chuckle. Thank you.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Nice. I almost don’t want to edit.

[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, this whole “matters that don’t concern us” take is really scary to me. It scares me that people don’t want to learn from history and realize that it eventually will.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There will always be people who feel if it doesn’t touch their family circle, their immediate living situation, then it’s unimportant.

This take happens more in the living paycheck to paycheck set which may as much as 60% of Americans at present.

[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I do get that to a point. But to express this view so unapologetically is a little painful to see.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All this you feel? It reeks of the stuff leading up to WW1. Just waiting on the Zimmerman telegram now.

We're going to backslide to the prewar days where violence was the only way to amass power, before the days of the UN, USAID, NATO, and the rest.

And that isolationist shit is consistent with America pre WW1 and the interwar period before WW2.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Preaching to the choir.

The billionaires in America don’t care though. They don’t care about our Constitution either. They just want to play ball so they’re not monopoly busted by Trump in retaliation and so they get a place at the feeding trough as these assholes dismantle us and our country.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Remember the stupid parade that he was so desperate to have and never got?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

him acting like a little boy playing with toy truck when behind the wheel of a construction vehicle

You missed this one then? https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/vroom-vroom-vroom

Apparently I also missed this one https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/trump-truck

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And yet. All of this feels like a seismic shit prefacing going to war

And what's the solution to that? Further militarization of the US and Europe? Or diplomacy and negotiations?

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Diplomacy? From Trump? That’s not happening on any timeline.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -2 points 1 day ago

So let's push for ramping up the military industrial complex in Europe instead?