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I have a new Prius and my parents have a Tesla. I am very happy with my Prius but my dad is always trying to make me feel like I should have bought a Tesla and I made the wrong choice. Now he's scared to visit me in the city because someone might scratch a swastika in his car. So who made the wrong choice again?
https://xkcd.com/687/
Toyota >>>>> Tesla
Any day
A former axis power >>>>> a country working on becoming one
I mean listen, show me a good auto manufacturer that hasn't been controlled by a fascist government?
Well, as of Jan 2025 that eliminates all American car brands.
As of years before World War 2, Henry Ford was a fucking nazi.
He was indeed. I was referring to all the others.
"good" already did 😉
Yeah there are some good car parts made here, but then they get installed in the worst designs and build quality since 1970s Britain.
Yep, (and even if not for him we did have Andrew Jackson once) German, Japanese, and south Korean are out too. Italy is doubly eliminated.
The Aussie auto industry when it was still going made some good stuff!
Australia isn't real. Its a joint Chinese-new zealish psy op to make Brits do a silly accent dometjnes
You mean Ford and Holden (GM)? I love the idea of utes, especially instead of to dozers we have in the US, but their cars mostly 1960s evolved tech, until they started sticking Japanese motors in some of the Holdens in the 90s.
Yup those two manufacturers, and don't forget the mighty Barra
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Barra_engine
Absolutely amazing unit those things,
Yeah, I’ve seen lots of Mighty Car Mods and Skid Factory about them, in the US LS engines make too much sense to bother with a L6 of any kind.
Yeah that's fair, and tbh at one point you could pretty much look in a bin a fine a perfectly serviceable barra just good for the using 😂
are we counting pre-1988 south korea
Yes
The Texas factory is nearly twice as big as the CA one, is where the Cybertruck is made, and is the HQ of Tesla ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have seen Priuses with 700.000 km on their odometer for sale. Tesla drivers are lucky if they can reach 200.000.
Shouldn't the plural of Prius be Prii?
Priuses or Priusii
There are Model S with over a million, but they also had multiple battery and drive unit replacements.
Meanwhile the OG Prius has a bulletproof engine and a broken battery can easily be repaired in your backyard with very little tools or knowledge required, barely more difficult than changing out a starter battery in an ICE car
The new prius looks really nice. I sat in one recently and the headroom isn't great, but I'm 6'4" and I was sitting in the back.
I'll admit, it's small inside. But I'm short (5'2") and my husband isn't exactly tall (5'7"), and it's perfect for both of us.
Rode in a Prius 5 deep to a wedding reception and was kind of surprised by how much room there was inside ( first gen, I was one of 3 in the back) and the torque was impressive as well.
I still see a lot of them on the road , so the build quality is probably superior to tesla junk
The Prius V is spacious AF. Hopefully they make a new version of that as well.
The new Prius actually looks good!
The only Tesla that looks decent is the Model S.
Model 3, looks just generic, the 2023 facelift looks less bad.
Model Y just looks terrible, the facelift makes it even worse.
Model X, just what the fuck? Its like is a long car crashed into s wall in a world with cartoon physics, squishing it.
All Teslas I have seen also have two terrible things in common.
The headlights constantly blind oncomming drivers.
The indicator are WAY too subtle next to the headlights, here in Sweden we have a law that require headlights to be on then the car is on, this means that when I see an oncomming Tesla at a crossing I have to look straight at the headlights and try to notice a slight shift in the white balance, while being blinded at night.
They all look almost exactly the same. The S I'm more familiar with because it's been around longer and is a noticeably longer car than the other two, but I'm not sure I could even tell the 3 and the Y apart!
Yeah to me it's: big Tesla, medium Tesla and Porsche-ish Tesla.
The Y looks like a pregnant 3, the X looks like a pregnant, overweight S.
I got a used model 3 after we found out he was an asshole but before we knew he was a nazi. I think the 3 looks great, even a little better than the S imo. The X is ridiculous. The only Tesla that's incompatible with a roof rack is an SUV? What a joke.
Yeah. One of the first things I did was disable the auto high beams.
Teslas genuinely looks like they were designed by a committee of engineers who looked up google images of sedans 5 minutes before the meeting.
Even without all of that you are better off getting the Prius. It means you don't have to deal with the utter nightmare that is Tesla customer support, It's always worth thinking about what happens when something inevitably goes wrong.
Plus of course you can always take the Prius to a generic mechanic. But they never have pants for Tesla's I don't think Tesla let them out. They are like Apple in that respect.
I don't think customers are responsible for the behavior of a demented CEO. That's meme-driven thinking that can't process the world unless it's simplified to GoodGuys vs BadGuys.
I get that you may be joking, but him being fearful someone may vandalize a vehicle in the city doesn't equate to him making a wrong choice. Imagine Trump starts locking people up for refusing to bow to him and your dad says to you before you go to jail, "well you made the wrong choice."
Now, him helping support a billionaire fascist on the other hand indicates he made a bad choice. Did he buy it cause he is a Musk fan, or cause he likes the features?
An unfortunate truth is that car manufacturers have been able to get away with doing very little. Tesla wouldn't have been as successful as it is initially if other manufacturers had actually implemented descent tech. Simple things like descent quality integrated cameras that record are still missing on almost every other car.
I would have loved a progressive to get elected and regulate the industry more to require car manufactures form some sort of working group to make various components an open standard.
If you bought a Tesla in like 2017 because you wanted an EV and are now just stuck with it because it's a worthless piece of explosive batteries and plastic and nobody wants it, I feel sorry for you. But if you bought a Tesla at any point in the last few years, then yeah, you deserve to be too scared to even leave your house knowing what sort of person you gave money too.
You are describing fascist behavior. You're suggesting that people should be motivated to do what you want politically by fear of what your people will do to them if they don't.
A Tesla bought in 2017 isn’t worthless or more explosive than an ICE. The cyber truck is wayyy more explosive/dangerous than the older teslas. My 2018 Model 3 is still going strong. Since I’ve already paid off the auto loan, there’s no point in selling it until it completely breaks down, which could be like another 10 years. No point in wasting money when Elmo isn’t getting any of it since I mostly use home charging.
Hope you haven't ordered any shit from Amazon in the last 8 years...
I... haven't
The fact that you need four paragraphs for a riposte is more telling.