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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Or to our wealthy overlords ... it will kill off the "surplus population" and leave more room and resources for them.

[–] Alue42@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

The wealthy overlords require a multitude of cheap labor to retain their wealth. That's why they are so concerned about falling birth rates - listen to any of them talk about it, it has nothing to do with concern for the planet like any of the rest of us (less demand on resources that we are already depleting, etc), they are concerned about maintaining the current rates of production and labor if the next generations are smaller and smaller. Sure, Vance is talking about it from a "family values" perspective, because that's a cloak he thinks his base will listen to, but listen to Musk talk about it, or any of the "pro-natalist" movement.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the funniest thing. The wealthy have bunkers and all that but don't have the skills to actually survive.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Best part is those bunkers will be filled a handful of physically weak billionaires and money makers surrounded and outnumbered by well trained soldiers, mercenaries and military people. The wealthy owners believe that they hired honourable, loyal dedicated soldiers ... but once the lights go out and everyone is on their own, who do you think will want to take over those bunkers?

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's why the billionaires want shock collars on their security squads.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As if ex-special forces don't get anti-interrogation training, oh and lock picking training.

They really are just a bunch of greedy idiots.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Also the collars aren't immune to simple brute force attacks. A careful angle grinder can nullify it. Do that to the entire security team and now there's a new warlord in town.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Makes a lot of sense Muskrat is pouring money into the neurolink.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But there will be fewer of us to collect, process, and deliver those resources. This means that those of us who are left will be able to command higher wages and better working conditions. (Not high or better enough, mind you, but higher and better.)

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

That's why they're investing heavily in AI

[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago

Ask the Irish about that.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Which is what our class wars will be based on .... which group should be left or eliminated in order to serve the masters because one group has to go.