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[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 156 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (90 children)

I don't understand what it's going to take for someone to do something. Protests are not going to work when they're holding all our money, services, rights, data, etc hostage, and threatening all our public servants. We already had a hard time protesting before this, because health care is tied to employment. It's not a coincidence that they're going after Medicare and Medicaid. They want an entire nation of indentured servants. Unable to own anything, including our own freedom. When we can't work anymore we can just go die in the wilderness like animals I guess. Hmm where have we heard that before?

Everyone is terrified and exhausted. It seems pretty evident that the election was outright stolen, and I have a hard time believing nobody in power suspected something that many of us immediately called, not with the mountains of evidence that's been stacking up for months, years even. So why didn't they do anything? Why did they wait until Trump was sworn in to even talk about it?

I see Canadians online talking about Americans like we chose this. But we didn't, it was forced upon us, and we're begging for help! Who can we turn to if not our allies? What is going on???

Edit: To those claiming that I'm just as bad as the J6ers, that the election was not tampered with and Harris just ran a terrible campaign; whether unwittingly or not, you are part of the problem. You're falling for the suppression and misinformation tactics, or you're facilitating them. I'm editing my comment to compile some links, but let me be clear, I fully expect that you're going to deny these facts as well, and move the goalposts again. My refusal to engage is not a concession, it's me protecting what little emotional energy I have left.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2024_United_States_elections

Some great information about voter suppression from a trusted journalist: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

This guy's compilation is great

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eligible-voters-swept-up-conservative-activists-purge-voter-rolls/

https://www.youtube.com/live/284VFHrO8Nc?si=F-fk-rB6dH2_taWv

https://sos.ga.gov/news/georgias-2024-statewide-risk-limiting-audit-confirms-voting-system-accuracy ~ please note the date (November 20th) and how soon after the election this was, in business days. This link should be taken into consideration with a few more facts, including what we know about their flawed 2020 audit and Trump's famous phone call. Here is a good examination of the audit showing two very important oddities that should be further examined: https://goudanachos.github.io/pages/georgia-rla-discrepancy-analysis-2024/

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-voting-machines-trump-investigation-2018890

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fake-bomb-threats-linked-russia-briefly-close-georgia-polling-locations-2024-11-05/

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-01-06/musk-and-putins-dual-interference-in-europe.html ~ an article about just some of the countries where there are suspected or substantiated instances of election interference.

Yes, this is what NATO is for. It is an alliance meant to prevent fascism from taking hold. Just because it's only ever been used in non member countries doesn't mean it can't be used on us, especially if Trump continues to threaten allies. Talking about this leading to WWIII is a strawman argument. You don't know that will happen and it is not a good reason to not be asking for help from our allies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO

To those who think comparisons to Hitler and Nazi Germany are hyperbole:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/01/hitler-germany-constitution-authoritarianism/681233/

I fully expect that some of the bad actors from reddit are here as well. For anyone else reading this: Question their motives. If they're trying to deny what we can see with our own eyes, their intentions are not good.

I will continue to add links as I'm able.

Watch this if you haven't already: https://youtu.be/CVgNJf6CsBA?si=_SBBLf_yuNVuif7y

[–] tonbo@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What are you asking outside forces to do? Invade America and install a foreign government because americans are unable to maintain their freedom?

[–] Tankton@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Perhaps we can ask the Taliban for help

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe President Xi really could save us.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're saying that like it's a bad thing? If that's what needs to happen so that Elon Musk doesn't irreparably damage our country and cause the deaths of millions, then yes. Please. Invade us. We've done it to plenty of other countries, maybe it's our turn.

Also yeah, that's pretty much what NATO does when shit really hits the fan.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There is no way to invade you.

military spending

Your military is 37% of the whole world. It would require literally you vs the whole rest of the world, and even then with you being a literal island, an invasion would probably still not be possible because of the supply line advantage.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

They don't have to invade us and that's not what I'm suggesting. They go straight to Musk and Trump's strongholds and arrest them. Much like what happened in South Korea, except with outside forces, since ours seem to be neutered. Anyone who says this isn't what NATO does, doesn't know what they're talking about.

Also, Trump and Musk are NOT popular with the military right now. There have been active duty service members at protests, one had to be carried out of a confirmation hearing, multiple are uploading videos saying what an insult it was that J6ers were pardoned, and so on. I would hazard a guess that whoever did this with the flag is also military or closely aligned with the miliary, because it isn't exactly common knowledge. So if the time comes, I don't think many will be rushing to defend the masters of this coup.

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