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The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's going to be handled are already in the works. This bill, which I link to here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text , seems ok at first glance and only seems to want to implement nationwide healthcare centers for women. But when you actually look at what these Pro Women's Healthcare Centers are and mean to offer, it becomes really clear what's going on.

On the first page of the PDF or booklet that appear when you search for the healthcare centers it is clear that they are supported by pro-life organisations and hold extreme pro-life values. And when you read the (very short) booklet it states their values and services that are to be provided. Among them is a requirement for "Abortion Pill Reversal" and encouragement for "Sterilization Reversal". The last page clearly states their values, where among them it states that:

"Abortion is not women's healthcare, because of the damage it causes to women's physical and emotional health and the destruction of unborn life, many of whom are females. Abortion is usually something women turn to when they feel they do not have another choice. This is a tragedy and the opposite of choice and empowerment."

And it goes on to list similiar values. The bill to implement these healthcare centers states that:

"That the House of Representatives—

(1) expresses its support for women nationwide to have access to comprehensive, convenient, compassionate, life-affirming, high-quality health care; and

(2) recognizes the high standards established by Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers consortium as standards worth implementing nationwide."

This means that the values that these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers have are to be set as standards nationwide.

A link to the PDF/booklet about the Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers (PWHC): https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/PWHC-Booklet.pdf

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

He kind of implied it. Later he said that’s not what he meant. But back in 2020, he was saying he would be a “bridge” to a new generation.

Most people assumed that meant a 1 term presidency to buy time to develop talent.

[–] diverging@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

As I said in my edit: The bridge candidate stuff is just fluff to get people to not worry about his age, it doesn’t mean anything. It is certainly not a promise of anything.

Most people assumed that meant a 1 term presidency

Why do you consider something that people assumed to be a promise by Biden?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Because words have meaning and were understood to mean he would be a 1 term presidency.

The simple fact that he didn’t correct that assumption until the run up in 2024 shows he absolutely meant to imply that he would be.

Stop gaslighting. We’re not stupid.

[–] diverging@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, words have meaning. Biden said “I don’t have any plans on one term.” Why does some vague suggestion of being a 'bridge' get you to ignore those very easy to understand words?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To my knowledge, biden never corrected that assumption- which was a commonly voice belief, considering his staff ran with it to persuade hesitant votes wanting somebody who hadn't been in government longer than most of us have been alive.

so your going to have to drop a source- dated to 2020- showing biden correcting that narrative. Especially when his campaign staffers "leaked' him saying he would be a 1 term pres privately.

It's not possible to ignore words that were never actually said, or a campaign that did everything to imply it short of stating it.

[–] grindemup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] diverging@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

It’s not possible to ignore words that were never actually said

He said it. “No, I never have,” Biden said when asked by a reporter on Wednesday if those discussions were taking place. “I don’t have any plans on one term.”

Form Feb 2020:

A voter at a CNN town hall in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Thursday night asked the former vice president, 77, if he would commit to serving only one term.
“No, I wouldn’t do that, but, I tell you what, you’re going to be able to make a judgment,” Biden said. “And, by the way, the two youngest people on the stage now are me and Buttigieg,” he joked, referring to 38-year-old former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, the youngest candidate in the race.

From Aug 2020

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said in a new interview he would “absolutely” be open to the possibility of serving two full terms in the Oval Office if elected in November.
“I think it’s a legitimate question to ask anyone over 70 years old if they’re fit, they’re ready,” Biden, who would be the oldest president ever elected, told ABC’s David Muir in an interview airing Sunday evening. “But … watch me.”
Muir mentioned the 77-year-old’s own description of himself as a “transition candidate,” and asked if that meant Biden was committing himself to a single term.
“No, it doesn’t mean that,” Biden responded.
“So you’re leaving open the possibility you’ll serve eight years?” Muir asked.
“Absolutely,” Biden responded.

Especially when his campaign staffers "leaked’ him saying he would be a 1 term pres privately.

If you read what they say you would find that they are offering their opinions on what he would do, and not relaying anything that Biden said.

For some reason you want to interpret him being a bridge as him saying he would be a short bridge. Bridges can be long. I have no idea why you placed any significance on that statement anyway. Biden being a bridge candidate to younger candidates is like me being able to go under a limbo bar when it is set 10 ft high.

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