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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

That's so wild that the people who tried to overthrow the election results are even capable of this much change so quickly.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 6 points 2 hours ago

Not really. One can look at other cults where people finally snap out of their trance once they've been separated from their leaders for a while. Not everyone does but many do.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It’s pretty inspiring, really. If there’s one thing the orange assface is right about, it’s that our prison system is horrendous. Now, I’m sure he doesn’t actually care since he’s above the law and will never see the inside of a cell, but I’m willing to bet at least of few of the insurrectionists (many of whom had relatively privileged backgrounds) took their guilty verdict and prison sentence very seriously. It’s probably the first time many of them were ever properly held responsible for their actions, which makes the pardons that much more egregious.

Not that it’s the same thing, but murderers have some of the lowest recidivism rates amongst convicted criminals, because people are first and foremost human, and when given the time most people are capable of understanding the impacts of their actions.

Our justice system does a pretty terrible job in general, but the Jan 6 cases were a rare example of the system working properly.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Idk, a lot of the Jan6 sentences were very lenient in general.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago

For sure, I agree. Many of the sentences could probably have been longer. But clearly some were enough to make a difference for people like this woman. People can change and understand the wrongs they’ve committed if they’re given the opportunity and empathy to do so.

To be clear I’m not making excuses for any insurrectionists. But everybody, even them, deserves a genuine chance to understand the harm they caused with their crimes. If even a few of them can do that, then maybe this whole ordeal wasn’t a complete quagmire.