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[โ€“] Alice@beehaw.org 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The USA's two-party system is a fucking farce and we're not going to see major, widespread change under either party. But if I bring this up I get called a "Russian bot" and accused of telling people not to vote... even though I vote.

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago

Don't worry (/s), I think you're down to one now.

Speaking of real, the USA is not a law of nature. It's only been around for a short time, historically, and it took a bloody civil war to keep it going this long. The warning that we have to vote for the correct color every time, or the country falls apart, is wrong. Voting for the correct color and the country still falls apart is possible if that color can't make the fundamental changes needed.

[โ€“] golli@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The issue is that the same people that would lose votes from doing so would have to change the system. Which obviously means they have no incentive to do so.

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In healthy democracies reform happens anyway, though because there's grassroot demand and politicians willing to capitalise on it one way or the other. It's just that that's not one.

[โ€“] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The problem is that the US first needs to be in a stable place in order to break free of the 2 party system. I don't think we're going to see that in our lifetimes.

I'll also add that one of the two parties actively wants to see me and anyone like me dead, so there's a lot of pressure for many of us on simply surviving

[โ€“] Alice@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

I'll also add that one of the two parties actively wants to see me and anyone like me dead, so there's a lot of pressure for many of us on simply surviving

Oh, for sure, hence why I'm not anti-voting. I still want to save my ass in the short term, even while thinking about the long term.

[โ€“] oxjox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

STAR and RCV is growing among some states and counties. Have hope.

[โ€“] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

We've gotten a ton of change with trump. That's why it's felt so disruptive. Might not be the kind of change you were hoping for, but it's certainly change.