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[โ€“] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're all on the same team here, it's all the same story

[โ€“] peppersky@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not so fucking sure I'm on the same team as middle-class americans, but sure.

[โ€“] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Middle class is an arbitrary distinction we are all workers

Now what can definitely be said is that your typical American is a reactionary racist beyond salvation but that's true regardless of income, and if this is your point I don't disagree

[โ€“] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago

Middle class is an arbitrary distinction we are all workers

It's not entirely arbitrary. The middle classes are what people are referring to when they talk about the Petit Bourgeoise & "Labor Aristocracy". Still, peppersky is perhaps taking things a bit too personally.

[โ€“] peppersky@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not crying for some roaches with million dollar homes getting what was coming to them. The United States uses more power for air conditioning than all of south america uses for existing. Fuck em. Fuck their houses, fuck their retirements. They'll hold on to their white picket fences until the rest of the world has burned into nothing but ash. We can and will do without them. These wildfires, all the wildfires to come are nothing compared to what climate change will wrestle upon the rest of the world.

[โ€“] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

One way of thinking I guess... The other is that these people live in the imperial core and had these decisions largely thrust upon them. They're indoctrinated. It's a similar inclination to hating the descendants of Jews that the Nazis shipped to the burgeoning colony in Palestine in the lead up to the Holocaust. If we're completely abandoned the idea that these people are reachable and can organize and avert the worst outcomes, then sure. I'm not so certain they're unreachable though. A lot of them, even most of them, definitely are in my experience.

[โ€“] peppersky@hexbear.net 4 points 23 hours ago

All true, but fuck them anyway. The 2022 pakistan floods destroyed 800.000 houses and killed 1700 people. That's where my sympathy goes, to the people who didn't profit from the ravenous extraction of natural resources and the destruction of our whole planets ecosystem for the last two centures, but who as always bear the brunt of the destructive forces behind capitalism. Why should my sympathy go to the american middle-class of all people, just because they've colonized the whole world and have made their gentrifying destroying way of life the default? The middle-class in america is in no way closer to me or more important than any other poor person in any other part of the world.