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Everywhere I look the downturn is because of “outsourcing”, “India taking our jobs!!”, “cheap overseas labor” and never, never ever porky’s fault. It’s the dirty immigrant labor, not the guys who talk about having “properties”. I’ve always seen this shit floating around in white collar jobs as long as I’ve been working but it’s been really amped up the last few weeks. I am not surprised that people are just this racist on their own but at least some of it feels very manufactured.

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[–] blame@hexbear.net 3 points 12 hours ago

What's really interesting is that H1Bs fail on both sides of the immigration issue. They fit the anti-immigration "took our jobs" almost by definition, and they are a temporary visa that does not lead to permanent residency, so they don't even create full citizens with an investment in the country! It's complicated and I personally have a lot of conflicting feelings about them, but they really do appear to encourage replacing American workers with cheaper and easily abusable foreign workers in the name of corporate "progress" and profits.

This is a discussion to be had about the nature of H1B status, but the current arguments over it are not that. People are complaining about immigrants and not the exploitative nature of the H1B visa. If that's being discussed at all it's just concern trolling.

If we only did things that completely fix issues in one fell swoop, we'd never do anything

Well the only thing we seem interested in fixing is the immigration part of it, which as I said will not fix the problem.