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Everywhere I look the downturn is because of “outsourcing”, “India taking our jobs!!”, “cheap overseas labor” and never, never ever porky’s fault. It’s the dirty immigrant labor, not the guys who talk about having “properties”. I’ve always seen this shit floating around in white collar jobs as long as I’ve been working but it’s been really amped up the last few weeks. I am not surprised that people are just this racist on their own but at least some of it feels very manufactured.

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not American, what's this thing?

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

An H-1B visa is a kind of temporary work visa employers can apply for, it is for "specialized" immigrant workers. Generally math/engineering type stuff.

Chuds hate it because racism and "they took our jerbs," when it should be opposed because it crates a category of laborer that are even more precariously under the thumb of their employer (their immigration status is essentially determined by their employer's ability to extract further surplus from them.)

The H-1B visa status expires at the end of the employment period, and there is no grace period to remain in the U.S. beyond that date.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

it is for "specialized" immigrant workers

but like 99% of H1B1 applications are for entry level jobs in my industry lmao

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Well, that's the language they use. Aside from that, entry level jobs can also be specialized. Here Pharmacy Technicians are entry level jobs, requiring no prior education and seen as the beginning of the Pharmacist's career path (in conjunction with pharmacology school) however you would say they are specialized when compared to other kinds of store clerks.

They are largely just trying to draw a distinction between the coders and engineers they want to hire from migrant agricultural workers etc. they don't want.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Ah. That clears it uo nice. It's amazing that chuds and leftists can both hate the same thing for different reasons but the neolibs will for sure make it happen anyway

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

H1B visas are just work visas for "highly skilled labour" to immigrate to the United States. There's a cap of ~65k issued per year, and it's usually used by large tech conglomerates and other large companies to hire foreign labour and bring them to the United States. A lot of these H1B visa immigrants are South Asian because India has the most IT specialists in the world and many of them speak good English. There's like a right wing civil war going on right now where Elon and co say they need H1Bs because native born Americans don't work as hard as immigrants (which in my experience is true, immigrants always work harder, highly paid or not, since immigration is already self selecting and they went through a lot of work to immigrate and are primarily motivated by money hence the economic migration) and the white supremacist MAGA guys saying H1Bs are contributing to the Great Replacement or whatever.

[–] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, H1B visa recipients in my experience tend to be extraordinarily hard working. I know a few and literally they work 7 days a week, at least 12 hours a day (many times, 16).

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah it's often because the H1B is a particularly precarious visa as it's tied to your employer, so if they don't do a good job and get fired or laid off or whatever they also then get deported. It's not exactly "slave labour" since like they're earning good money and can leave whenever etc etc but it's certainly exploitative with an added reward of deportation for not doing 150% of your job.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

I mean gilded shackles are still shackles.

[–] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah that makes a lot of sense

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Its brain-draining countries and then lording over those educated immigrants and throwing them back to their countries, when they are no longer useful. Its a disgusting and amoral system.