Everywhere I look the downturn is because of “outsourcing”, “India taking our jobs!!”, “cheap overseas labor” and never, never ever porky’s fault. It’s the dirty immigrant labor, not the guys who talk about having “properties”. I’ve always seen this shit floating around in white collar jobs as long as I’ve been working but it’s been really amped up the last few weeks. I am not surprised that people are just this racist on their own but at least some of it feels very manufactured.

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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I personally haven't seen people blaming the H1B workers in any circles I frequent.

This is either written in bad faith or almost willful ignorance, I’m sorry.

You haven’t seen people blame South Asian immigrants? In ANY circle?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're hanging out in third world Maoist circles that just shoot any krakkkers on sight then.

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol, I'm genuinely confused by this. I have conflicting feelings on H1Bs and agree with the OP that it's the oligarchs' faults, but that doesn't automatically make them good or bad. The oligarchs like H1Bs because it lets them exploit the working class more effectively.

Also, and this is the most confusing part, are you implying that hating the KKK is a bad thing? Or is that supposed to be more nuanced, like "killing the KKK on sight is bad, they deserve a fair trial and punishment"? Either way, kinda bad taste tbh. There are plenty of other non-universally-agreed-upon evil things you could have used instead. It's just bad rhetoric.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

The three K's are not directly referencing the Klan, it's a reference to "Maoist Standard English" and a joke.

Funkystuff is joking the reason you have not experienced the racism described above is because you have cloistered yourself with only the ideologically pure.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, didn't mean to be overly critical of what you've been saying. I disagree but you've been fair and I think you're arguing in good faith.

Also, and this is the most confusing part, are you implying that hating the KKK is a bad thing?

No lol I'm saying that all the white people I see online are being super racist towards immigrants on this particular issue, so I invoked the image of a group that doesn't let white people in. "kkkrakers" is Maoist Standard English for white people.

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ha, ok that makes more sense. I was like "this guy is saying reasonable stuff in other comments and now they're subtly pro-kkk?" Didn't add up 😂

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

No, not any circles. I said the circles I frequent, which tend to be more progressive towards immigration. I'm sure someone blames the immigrants themselves, but it's not a widespread/both-aisles belief like the post insinuates.

I've seen understanding and sympathy for the immigrants trying to better their lives and being given the ugly end of capitalism. Working for less pay than your peers and being under constant thread of deportation is no way to live. And if, as a country, we're so desperate for workers that we're bringing in people from overseas, we better be giving them a path to permanent residence since they're obviously beneficial to have around and they should have some skin in the game and the chance to be treated as equals rather than expendable cost-savers.