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Everywhere I look the downturn is because of “outsourcing”, “India taking our jobs!!”, “cheap overseas labor” and never, never ever porky’s fault. It’s the dirty immigrant labor, not the guys who talk about having “properties”. I’ve always seen this shit floating around in white collar jobs as long as I’ve been working but it’s been really amped up the last few weeks. I am not surprised that people are just this racist on their own but at least some of it feels very manufactured.

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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I don't understand why H1bs even exist

Why don't they just outsource literally every IT/programming job to the 3rd world? And pay every worker like a $20k salary. Cheap as fuck and way more effective

Like how the FUCK is it reasonable to bring in H1bs who get paid ~80% of a US worker, when you can literally outsource the entire job to Bangladesh and get the same product but for ~20% of a US worker (or even less)

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Management finds it more fun to breath down their necks literally in person instead of figuratively over zoom.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't surprise me when porky prefers to waste money on office space in prime real eastate areas like NYC or Palo Alto when they could just let people WFH.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think anti-WFH is a conspiracy to help keep Westoid power artificially inflated

if you let everyone WFH it suddenly makes zero sense to employ ANY WESTOID because you can just replace every job with WFHers from Philippines, Cambodia, India, etc

every service would be outsourced, and every manufacturing job was already outsourced. there just literally wouldn't be a westoid economy anymore (like even less of one than there is now)

in addition to that, all the industries that depend on the charade of forcing people into the office would basically stop existing: fast food, restaurants, automakers, landlords, etc. The economy would consist solely of food healthcare and other resource extractions (mining, timber) and even those are largely done by immigrants who are physically here

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is anecdotal but I imagine it's indicative of a larger trend, but I have friends who work for WFH-only tech firms that are doing exactly this, they've realised that they can pay Latin American software folks like a third of US salaries and who perform the same job just as well. The time zone is the same, and many are fluent in English. Only possible because they're a WFH-only company though.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Yup, IBM contracts a lot of people from Costa Rica and good for them, but they are still overworked quite a bit. And their white manager berates them in front of their clients.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

It could be helpful for a company to hire H1bs if it employs a combination of domestic and foreign workers. Having worked for a tech company that hires some remote teams in India for some projects, the large timezone gap makes collaboration difficult. Any meeting involving both US and Indian employees required the Indian workers to need to be available really late and US workers to be available really early (like 3 or 4 AM early), making everyone unhappy. It's a much harder timezone difference to manage than, say, the difference between US Eastern and Pacific times.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Its easier to isolate and pressure workers if they come to america and not live in their home country.