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He's been talking about it for months, but looks like he's going to actually introduce it. An embedded-emissions tariff like this was proposed during early draft outlines of Build Back Better, but didn't survive negotiation.

I'll note that his idea of 'more methane gas instead of coal' is something which might have been a reasonable intermediate step 30 years ago. It's not now, in a world where wind and solar are the cheap option.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like a good, bipartisan policy proposal. So I’m sure republicans will invent some reason that it’s bad.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They will at least try to carve out exceptions for pollution caused by order of the US multinationals and make the proposal useless in the process.

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