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[–] QuantumEyetanglement@lemdro.id 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Four times? How many times has Steam allowed it? Trying to follow your argument, TIA!

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Did I ever claim Steam is a "strongly DRM free platform"? Did Steam ever sell itself as the non evil alternative due to a quoted "lack of DRM?"

If you're trying to follow my argument, you're not doing a good job.

[–] ika_chan@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

If I understand this correctly, you value Steam's honesty over a few instances in which GOG hypocritically violated their own DRM policy. That sucks, for sure, and GOG should be called out for it -- but at the end of the day, the vast majority of games in my GOG library can be downloaded as offline installers that don't need to contact a server, while the vast majority of the games I own on Steam can't (barring, of course, circumventing Steam's fairly weak DRM scheme, which is illegal).

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

the vast majority of the games I own on Steam can't

People keep making this claim, but I don't think this is true, I've made backups of lots of games, even played some in lan with some friends from just a single copy to convince them to buy the game. DRM has to be enabled by the developer, so the majority of games don't do it, but also lots of games are badly coded and assume steam will be present so they fail to start without the steam library, but any game that's released somewhere else besides steam probably will just work (and any game that's only released on steam can't be found anywhere else so they're irrelevant).

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

you value Steam's honesty

Both are multi-millionaire if not billionaire companies. There's no way to attribute virtues like "honesty" to corporate entities.

But GOG is a much worse store than Steam, lacking features Steam had a decade ago and, most importantly, being loudly indifferent to how the games work on platforms other than Windows. Any gaming thread gets flooded by GOG fans talking about how we should support them anyway, because they're great and anti-DRM... Except I'm telling you they aren't, if their own games are at risk of being pirated they add DRM, if somebody wants to publish games protected by DRM on their platform they allow it. That's not anti-DRM.

Steam's DRM is disabled by default, and Valve is aware it's trivially easy to bypass and said multiple times they don't care. That's just as "anti-DRM" as GOG if we go by their actions, rather than their marketing claims.

Don't fall for marketing claims when they themselves are using DRM, it's ridiculous.