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No I haven't. I also don't think the past was as great as you describe, compared to the present.
When I was 3 we had martial law in Poland which was upheld for years. My parents struggled to buy land because they weren't in the party, they could only buy my grandfathers old car which was breaking down ever second time we went anywhere.
Now that my son is 2 we got martial law in South Korea, but people fought for democracy and it was gone after 6 hours.
Because I only have one life I'm trying to get the best out of it. I switched the environment a couple of time in my life and had to start from scratch. But I never had to go to war, neither did my father, while before that every generation had a war in their country.
I'm not saying it's good, but it's good enough not to think about going rogue from society.
This is the interesting thing. A lot of us who feel depressed about society never actually had any real hardships. We never fought in wars, we never had martial law, never lived under oppressive governments. Yet a lot of us are just unhappy with society.
As an old man, it is …frustrating to see the ‘nothing happened before I was born’ crowd telling us the world is doomed.
It’s selfish, privileged position and a worrying sign of excess news consumption.
How is it selfish though? I think a lot of people just feel there is not much hope for society. I don't see how that is selfish. But maybe you mean that there should be a sense of community and it's selfish to not care about that?
Because many people are living in conditions significantly worse than OP describes ,with widespread poverty oppression and crime …. Today. And they are getting in with life, and having families, and supporting one another - not writing embittered murder fantasies on the internet.
Try telling your tale of woe to any one from Sudan, Haiti, Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Somali, Yemen, Palestine of course, and countless other war torn places, they’d just laugh.
Yes because when someone else's suffering is worse it means your suffering is invalid. By that nature no one should ever bring up their trials and tribulations because someone always has it worse.
I love how OP has mass shooting fantasies and I’m getting shit.
Yep I know. I was in Peru for three weeks and I was amazed. People have nothing and live on dirt floors, yet are much happier then we are in the west.
I don't know what's wrong with us. Why can't we just enjoy what we have? But I honestly look at my own life, I'm tired of working, and I want to just relax and not work anymore. And it does seem like a big problem to me, I can't just quit and live on savings. And yet, in comparison, im being spoiled rotten to even have a job with a good income.
Why are we tired of working in the west? A lot of us are. Is it worse than our parents had it? I think so, to a degree. Some of our parents had ability to support families on a single slavery and buy houses. That's a luxary today.
I think a lot of it is feelings of helplessness. You're on a freight train that appears to be running straight at a cliff, you can't stop it, you can't even make it change course, and even with that looming in the distance, it feels increasingly hard to make the situation any better before you hit that wall. Even having proof that you can improve your circumstances can remove that feeling of helplessness, and that seems to be very much unavailable for people living their relatively comfortable, if stagnant, lives in much of the developed world. If your life isn't where you want it to be and you don't see a path to achieve that, it's very hard to feel happy.
Yes, you said it very well. And we shouldnt be happy in that situation either.