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[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'd say that Russia is the biggest source of suffering caused by imperialism in the world right now ( just going by the death toll of the Ukraine war ) . Is saying that a 'distraction' from American imperialism?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Gaza absolutely dwarfs Ukraine in terms of suffering caused by imperialism.

Honestly, this is why I increasingly believe that people who say things like the OP don't actually believe American Imperialism is bad, they're just doing whataboutism to defend it.

[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The data for Ukraine is so contested that it's hard to put a number on it, but it's probably higher than the Israel Palestine conflict, and at least comparable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Casualties

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're going to try to cite a claim, please don't just drop the Wikipedia pages on the subjects. In fact, don't cite Wikipedia at all.

[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Complicated subjects like this have dozens of citations which often contradict eachother. The great thing about wikipedia is that it shows multiple sources and where they came from. This is a far higher standard of evidence than just cherry-picking one source that agrees with me and pretending that it's definitive. Meanwhile the only thing you've cited is your imagination.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but you don't actually check any it the citations, nobody who cites Wikipedia does.

You didn't even say which part of the Wikipedia articles you were citing

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