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Guaranteed the word "woke" will be thrown around left and right

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 49 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm sorry, you're saying you're unable to get into a game simply because it's a female protagonist? If it was a male you'd be fine?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

“It’s so hard for me to imagine myself as a mutant monster killing master swordsman in a fantasy world if said mutant has a pair of tits”

Lol

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Exactly lol, it has nothing to do with some weird gender thing. It's a role playing game. You're playing as a role. Even in Skyrim the role you're playing (even if you choose a white male human) is someone living in Skyrim, a fictional place fighting dragons and draugr. So I think gender is one of the smallest differences.

God forbid you play a different perspective and see what it's like.

Female V in cyberpunk is one of the best gaming experiences. You feel being catcalled and hit on directly - and you beat the ever loving shit out of them for doing it.

[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But what if I play as a female character and start liking dicks? No way bro the risk is just too high!

Ha, one of the first times I saw someone playing as a woman (in third person) I asked why and he joked and said "dude why would I want to stare at a man's ass for 60 hours?". Not a bad argument tbh....

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I'm convinced that anyone who feels like they need to take steps to avoid liking dicks is actually in denial that they already like dicks.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

I mean how could you ever sympathize with a character that doesn't look exactly like you*?

*(Or the ideal of yourself, because let's be honest...)

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think he means he thinks women have trouble identifying to male protagonists as he has trouble identifying to female protagonists. If it was a male it's ok because he's a male (he can relate to).

He's conflating women "can't get behind a male protagonist" with women "who want more representation" and using it as his excuse. I think most gamers don't care, and don't think we should always have the choice. The only people who will hate this choice is people who already wanted to hate on women to begin with.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Which to that I'd say women have been able to "get behind male protagonists" for decades now.

I think choice is fun, for some games, but some games like the Witcher tell a specific narrative, and it makes sense that they are tailored for a specific character, and I think we all know the sort of abuse that Ciri is going to see in the world of the Witcher.

I think of any gender has trouble "identifying" with a character of another gender that's 100% a them issue, they need to figure out why they have such a problem with it, because that says more about them then it does game makers. (I know not you, the original person).

Seriously all it says to me is that you're insecure with yourself if you can't even play a fictional fantasy game as a woman.

[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely. It is probably in part cultural indoctrination teaching that women are weak & such. And they don’t want to feel weak. Many of my favorite games have women protagonists.

Looking forward to W4.

Many games are just better IMO by choosing the female POV. Femshep >>>> Maleshep

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

When logic is forsaken, turnabout is fair play.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Pretty much, yeah. Part of it is the whole "power fantasy" thing. I get, as others said, that it's a fantasy world so how could you expect to be immersed with mutants and whatever, but that's not the point. I don't expect it to be a VR experience where I can't even tell I'm not in the real world, and as others assumed no for fucks sake it has nothing to do with hating women. That's absurd. It's just a personal preference thing. I'm not going to write to the devs bitching or make some stupid "woke game" post, I just probably won't play it.

You really need to look internally and analyze why you feel that way.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

What? Women can't be powerful?