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Summary

Anti-Trump Americans, especially on the left, are showing a more subdued response to Trump’s 2024 reelection compared to the activism of 2016.

Exhaustion, disillusionment with repeated setbacks, and negative media coverage have led many to disengage from politics or shift focus to personal priorities.

Activist groups, like Women’s March, are planning protests but acknowledge lower enthusiasm and more localized efforts.

Experts suggest this “tune-out” may be a coping mechanism, with some hoping new, non-political participants will lead change.

Many feel drained but believe activism will eventually regain momentum.

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And honestly the worst part is: where is the dem leadership right now? Where has Harris been since her defeat? People should have accepted blame for this historic loss and stepped down, but instead - nothing. What the hell is this?

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

They lost, what do you expect them to do? Foment an insurrection? The American people have spoken and they chose 4 years of a fascist, rapist, lying criminal for a president.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I expect them to still show leadership, to try and bring hope to their constituents - and to take responsibility for the election loss.

What kind of leader just up and leaves after a loss like this? Did Bernie just fuck off after everything that happened to him? No, he's still there, still trying to build support and help younger politicians follow in his footsteps. Harris should be doing that or should resign, not whatever she's doing now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I expect them to still show leadership

Why start now?

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even more, what incentive is there for them? They know they will get the votes, and donations, from the blue no matter who crowd.

They don't need to change

Just need to play them for absolute fools

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And after this last election, it has become clear that they don't really care about the votes as long as they get the donations.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean would you care about the votes, specially post fact? The money is already there, and they are only humans.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Bernie is in a position where he actually does something. Vice President is a bench-warming position with no real power.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Doctors are just fake jobs, everyone knows it's the nurses who do all the work that's why my surgeon didn't even show up to my appendectomy.

If everyone treated their job like Democrats do theirs, the world wouldn't work.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Harris isn't just the vice president, she was the presidential candidate. For fucks sake, she wanted to be the Democrats leader for the next couple of years! She has way more power and influence compared to Bernie.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

She has way more power and influence compared to Bernie.

I don't see how, since she's a failed candidate and the VP of a lame duck president. You're not wrong that she could at least make an attempt to have some sort of message of resistance, but even if she did it wouldn't have any practical effect. Milquetoast centrist is milquetoast.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't see how your position makes sense. Not only was there literally a $1.4bn dollar campaign promoting her over the last few months, she also dictated the current direction of the DNC based on her campaign policies and promises. She's VP to a government whose policies she largely supported in her campaign. There hasn't been any broad renouncement of her.

Besides Biden, who has anywhere close to her power, both in the party and in the public eye? She should be using all of the focus to promote and support new & fresh Democrats. You can't seriously try to tell me she has less power than Bernie.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The very very low bar that everyone should have for the Democrats right now is to expect them to be furiously working to win the House and the Senate in the next midterm election. Like balls to the wall, all out. Anything less is completely acquiescing to trumpism.

You want more? They should be strategizing how to flip state legislatures. They should be working on lower levers of government from the bottom up, to fight gerrymandering and electoral shenanigans.

And these are just the normie political stuff. I'm not even going to get into the grassroots organizing, movement building, leadership development, labour organizing etc.

Franklin did tell you, from the very start: "a republic if you can keep it". Do you want to keep it?

My two Canadian cents, take it or leave it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

what do you expect them to do?

the person to whom you replied was perfectly clear on this:

People should have accepted blame for this historic loss and stepped down

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Foment an insurrection?

If Trump's a legitimate threat to democracy it would be unpatriotic for them not to do this.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not only where are they, but who are they? Is Harris still relevant in politics? Pelosi? AOC? Bernie?

Who is running things and what is their plan?