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[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Form militias I guess? That's what the 2A yokels told us to do right? Use the amendment to prevent a tyrannical government.

I don't understand how people think this is going to go any other way. It's that or fascism.

[–] cristo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not a bad idea. Ive been saying this for years, if the left embraced the 2nd amendment they would win every election. Its contradictory to vote for legislation and politicians that only benefit the rich and powerful while espousing for the proletariat. A government that does not fear its people will always become tyrannical, fascist, you name it.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

MLK and Civil Rights Movement v2

[–] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, you mean the Poor People's Campaign.

(Fun fact: MLK was begrudgingly tolerated as a black rights activist for several years, but then he pivoted to working class solidarity, and -- bam! -- assassinated. Funny, that.)

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

MLK was a real one. The more I learn about him, the more I respect him and the more I understand that he would be widely hated today

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hated is an understatement. He was about as far left as any figure with popular support has ever been in the US, which is why he so deeply scared the elites who opposed him.

Basically the moment he died people began softening his views to make them more palatable to the other side. This helped get civil rights legislations passed, but something of the man himself was lost in the process. Kids today learn he was for equal rights but very little about his actual beliefs.

Some More News has an excellent video about how little MLK Jr's modern image resembles the actual man, to the point that right-wing news stations invoke his words to support Republican policies without any sign of irony.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm very on board with this, but it needs to come with slightly more threat of violence

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Educate more.

Education never stops.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 8 points 2 weeks ago

Please, the time for education has long passed. It is action within 30 days or it is a lost cause. “Educate” is “thoughts and prayers.”

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You cannot educate the unwilling

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Then educate the willing. Don't focus on the cultists, focus on the people who voted out of desperation and fear.

They aren't all gone, many of them continue to wish for a brighter pleasant future in the same vein that we do. They just don't see it being delivered and have lost hope.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Organise local communities via education. Explain the current problems we’re facing, and advocate on behalf of the community for what we need.

Collectively bring those concerns to local politicians and push for those changes. Get the candidates representing those changes elected locally.

Get this to snowball and we can get state representatives that advocate for these changes.

Further snowballs and it can get to the national level. Eventually, the federal level.

These changes will take decades. What we do now won’t help us. But we will help our future children’s children. We may be able to save democracy and the collapse of the U.S.

If we can’t organise, the U.S. is doomed. Don’t despair. Grieve for your country, then get radicalised and angry. Use that anger to fight the system. But we need representatives, perhaps even politicians, to instruct the general population how to fight back by organising rather than leaving hopeless and disenfranchised people to give into rage and respond with violence.

Tl;dr - Get involved with local political communities to advocate for progressive policies. Community brings concerns to local politicians. Local politicians platform for these changes and we fight to get them elected. Continue this process of snowballing to get district elections, state elections, and eventually federal elections. The only way we can get there is with progressive policies that focus on the problems of the working class, and working hard to unite the working class because the owner class will exert all their resources to divide and disenfranchise us. They need us more than we need them.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

When you put it that way it sounds... Unpossible