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[โ€“] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 94 points 3 days ago (3 children)

When they dont use keyboard shortcuts.

[โ€“] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 72 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Select text -> Edit menu -> Copy, click elsewhere -> Edit menu -> Paste ๐Ÿคฎ

[โ€“] maniclucky@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Not knowing Ctrl+shift+esc opens the task manager is one thing, but copy and paste should be taught in school.

[โ€“] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I still havenโ€™t grown out of my ctrl + alt + del habit

[โ€“] SeekPie@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Step 1: get a 60% keyboard
Step 2: don't learn where the "delete" key is
Step 3: change the keycaps so you can't even look at the keyboard to see where it is
Step 4: ???
Step 5: profit!

[โ€“] lud@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The best shortcut like that is win+X it opens a quick menu with stuff like Powershell, task manager, device manager, and a bunch of other admin stuff.

You can also right click the window icon to open the menu.

[โ€“] shadow@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 days ago

I right click the start menu more than I open it normally.

[โ€“] maniclucky@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

My fingers have that plus the correct directional keys memorized to put my computer to sleep.

[โ€“] fushuan@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My lazy ass sometimes doesn't feel like moving the left hand so I just use the mouse.

[โ€“] Schal330@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Ctrl+shift+esc was so useful back when I learned it. I still see people press ctrl+alt+del and click to open task manager. Or alternatively (but not as bad imo) right clicking on the start button and selecting to open task manager

[โ€“] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

right clicking on the start button and selecting to open task manager

TIL

[โ€“] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 2 points 3 days ago

It doesn't physically interrupt the system like ctrl alt delete does.

[โ€“] spookex@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You don't even have to do it on the start button, any empty spot in the taskbar works

[โ€“] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 3 days ago

I still sometimes hit ctrl/alt/del to open the task manager if I'm not thinking.

Too many years of doing that when I was younger and it only brought up the task manager.

[โ€“] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Wut. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

Thank you for this.

[โ€“] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

I used to know this shortcut, but it was one of the many that I forgot after moving to linux.

Thanks for the refresher! Iโ€™ll probably get use of this on my work laptop

[โ€“] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I was going to say why is that even there, but it reminded me of a very useful macOS tip:

You can access all the menu bar items that donโ€™t have hot keys without leaving the keyboard.

Command+shift+question mark opens the help menu search bar and you can type in ANY menu bar item by name and press enter to do it. It will also show any keyboard shortcuts.

Ctrl+F2 selects the menu bar so you can use arrow keys, but thatโ€™s slower.

As an avid vim/terminal user, macOS accessibility shortcuts are friggen amazing.

[โ€“] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now I can't stop picturing a nightmare scenario of having to watch someone do their copy/paste purely from the keyboard, but using the menus via that trick, rather than using the hotkeys. Thanks for that.

[โ€“] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't have to paste via menu if "paste without formatting" didn't require the fingers of a pianist.

[โ€“] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isnโ€™t there a ctr+shift+v equivalent?

[โ€“] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, mostly it's command instead of Ctrl

But some permutations of paste without formatting/paste values only/paste format only end up using 4 keys which is always awkward to do.

[โ€“] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Paste Without Formatting exists on the right-click context menu almost everywhere. I don't consider context menu usage to be annoying (to observe someone using) at all, personally.

[โ€“] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But why use mouse when keyboard works?

[โ€“] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

Personally I find CTRL+SHIFT+V rather uncomfortable to press, not to mention it requires moving your whole hand down the keyboard, whereas CTRL+V doesn't. A quick rightclick -> Paste Without Formatting is quick enough to do.

[โ€“] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh that sounds really nice. I'm personally extremely annoyed that their shortcuts differ wildly from Windows and Linux shortcuts but at least this thing is some consolation.

[โ€“] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

After getting used to Mac (over 15 years now) I've grown to like the shortcuts, but it feels totally foreign when I use a Windows system. The reverse is also true.

[โ€“] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

Ooooh thanks! Iโ€™ll use that a lot.

[โ€“] brrt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

People like this have lost ctrl of their lives.

[โ€“] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

now imagine being a heavy duty vim user and your coworker ssh's into a machine, opens up vim, and eventually closes it by writing all their changes and then backgrounding the process, and then rebooting the machine

[โ€“] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Closing vim is like landing a plane: anytime you can walk away unscathed itโ€™s a success.

That depends on the person, and what their job is. The company IT guy should be able to do things faster than I can (or else I wouldn't have called IT in the first place) and shortcuts are part of that. If it's my retired construction worker of a father, there's no way he was ever going to know the hundreds of windows keyboard shortcuts that the OS does a terrible job of letting anyone know that they actually exist.