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You didn't mention KDE's lack of any adequate stability. That's what makes it incomparable to GNOME. They serve completely different use cases.
What year is it
2024, mister/miss, and I'm talking about Plasma 6.
KDE Plasma is wonderfully stable if you mean reliable, if you mean unchanging then yeah, it has quite a few changes.
i know i'll get downvoted but this was my experience last time i tried kde a few weeks ago (kubuntu and fedora kde):
cool animations but stuttery as hell
browser randomly consuming 10% of cpu, making everything else slow as if it was using 100% (tested: firefox, librewolf, floorp, brave)
programs refusing to install
programs refusing to open
editing the taskbar often resulted in all the items going on top of each other, i couldn't move them until i rebooted. couldn't find an option to reset the whole thing
i put cpu and gpu temps in the system monitor and it always borked after it had been closed a few minutes
kded5 or something like that constantly popped up wanting to create a new wallet. couldn't figure out how to disable. guides pointed to a configuration file that didn't exist on my system
idk if it's an nvidia thing but none of these happen on other DEs
My experience of anything Ubuntu based is that it is buggy as hell. I have no knowledge of Fedora.
well yeah i tried ubuntu a couple years back and i remember having some issues with it too.
weird thing is that mint has never had any issues even though it's based on ubuntu. not even nvidia related issues.
It's more of a distro problem than KDE. I have nvidia toi, and I admit, it bugs sometimes out.
well, cinnamon works great on mint and fedora, and i have had less (none) gpu related issues on mint than i did even on windows. kde wouldn't play nice with my old pc components either and gpu is the only thing that i kept, so i would suspect it's some weirdness between my gpu and kde.
and too bad i can't go with amd because i need hdmi 2.1
Rel man, I got pretty good nvidia gpu, but its 10 yo, it never played well with linux, but I feel like recently its much smoother experience on KDE wayland, before I had to use xorg as it was unusable on wayland. I think new major version (6) + constant updates to wayland made it usable, thats why i praise KDE so much, great DE and all their apps (like KDE connect, filelight, partition manager etc.).
sorry, i love plasma and i'd use it over gnome any day of the week, but there are still a ton of papercuts that make me feel uneasy about recommending it to anyone else. gnome is boring and it personally slows me down, but i feel safer setting up a corporate workstaion with gnome knowing the user won't break something by accident
I meant reliability. It's bad if you use ANY feature besides virtual desktops and app opening. In my understanding "stability" is stability of ALL features of the program, no matter how rarely they're used.
It really isn't, at least in my experience. And I have an Nvidia card!
All software beyond a moderate complexity has bugs.
Oh then it makes sense why you argued. However it's important to keep in mind that experience can vary among users. For example, in my case Plasma was very unstable on an Intel iGPU.
Not an excuse tbh.
The thing to do is participate in the beta programs and report any bugs you find, as you're having so much instability you would be an ideal participant whereas me with my smooth running wouldn't.
It's not what I'm saying. KDE releases untested and buggy builds to stable. It makes it unstable software. If you're a KDE fan, I understand, but don't reject objective facts.
What part of
didn't you understand?
The part where it says that it makes it stable and also the part where it says that GNOME is unstable.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/groups/GNOME/-/issues
KDE doesn't seem to give you an overall view
But then also:
Oh the irony.
It's not irony. Floating defects and hardware-specific fixes exist.
works in my machineis an opinion not an argument. Different people have different expectations and experiences.Doesn't work on my machine is an opinion not an argument. Different people have different expectations and experiences.