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The administration claimed that blocking arms transfers would embolden Hamas — ignoring Israel’s genocidal slaughter.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 94 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Even after Israel treated Biden like shit for four years in response to unquestionable support...

Israel backed trump instead and Biden still is fighting his own party on this instead of spending his last few weeks with any power trying to mitigate Trump's incoming damage.

At this point I honestly don't understand how anyone can claim Biden was anything but a waste of four years that was so unproductive it let trump back into the White House.

I don't give two shits if these ultra conservative Dems are slightly better than a republican. I know I can hold my nose, been doing it for a long time.

But not enough other people will.

And yelling at them isn't effective.

So why don't we stop trying to shove neoliberalism down Dem voters throats, and just run a candidate Dem voters already want to vote for over trump without needing a billion dollar campaign funded by everyone causing problems for the American people

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Iran, Russia, China and North Korea have formed an alliance. The US supports Israel as a means to an end: preventing Iran from growing in power in that region.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea...

Where have I heard this before?

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's not a new one.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They've been in an alliance since 1979. That's not going to change any time soon and Israel has nothing to do with it.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

I can't help it if the news is playing dumb.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Russia is at war with Ukraine and North Korea and China are helping while Iran and Israel are exchanging missles. Iranian drones are being used by Russia in Ukraine.

Who’s playing dumb?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Russia also supports the fascist apartheid regime and, if anything, the genocide emboldens everyone who's already opposed to zionist colonialism.

There's no upside to the people of the US or the rest of the west, only the politicians being bribed and blackmailed by AIPAC and similar de facto foreign government agencies.

TONS of downside, though, not least of which that what they're doing is more morally repulsive and indefensible than even the atrocities that we rightfully despise the Putin regime for doing.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

well if thats true, we've alienated our allies in that region so that plan was remarkably stupid. Or, it could just be that our representitives have been bribed and Israel doesnt care what US support for mass murder costs the US long term.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago

Or that the problem is Netanyahu and there is no easy way to end his genocide without letting Iran and thus Russia, China and North Korea get stronger.