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Chinese immigrants in the U.S. are running Temu shipping centers out of their homes
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Who is buying that shit? I’ve never once heard someone say “look at this great thing I got on temu!”. I’ve literally only seen wish-fail stuff. It seems like a company that extracts pennies from putting shit directly into the landfill.
I haven't bought from temu, but I've bought loads of stuff for various things on similar sites like aliexpress. If I have the time to wait for the shipping, it's the exact same components as I buy in electronics supply stores here, but at a fraction of the price. I prefer to not pay a 300-400% markup for no real reason.
AliExpress (if you are not the person thiking you can get a 4TB SSD for 20€) is great.
It started off as a "for people" Alibaba.com and I have bought lots of quality stuff there including a phone, circuits, tools (not the best but they will probably outlive me), 3D printer stuff etc etc.
Temu is like wish, just crap.
Temu is more on par with wish. It's really scanmy and disingenuous. Descriptions will claim one thing but send you some junk product instead.
AliExpress is a lot more legit. They're still cheap products, but at least you know what you're getting.
Anything you can find on Temu you could get from Ali, and usually even a bit cheaper, Temu just adds a predatory interface and false marketing on top of it, and people who have no experience with what Chinese manufacturing actually costs think it's miraculous.
It isn't, I've been buying this same stuff for almost two decades from sites like DealExpess, BangGood, Gearbest and then just straight from AliExpress. Temu is just the first to properly break through with the advertising. Because it's mostly just bullshit.
And they gameified it by making it if you got someone else to sign up you both got insane coupons to make stuff that they were selling as loss leaders even cheaper and get enough and you could get it for free.
It made it a race to get the most people to sign up for the app as the very rare person got a switch for free for being better than any advertisement.
They must have been bleeding money for the name recognition. I still think their name equals trash.
It's the exact same components I would have bought at a local store if there were any.
The last one closed almost 20 years ago. (Long before Temu, aliexpress and banggood)
I'd always thought there was a better use for the name Banggood than an electronic component store
I thought that's what they call upvotes on PornHub.
I thought those were called ErectVotes
I would say you should be free to make the decision to forego the advantages working though a middle man affords you, if you would prefer the savings. That said, there’s consumer protection, quality certification (important for insurance purposes), returns, after sales care and I’m sure I’m forgetting stuff. Nothing to do with differences in the product itself, more so the guarantee of a product that does what it says on the tin.
I use AliExpress for all the little items in my life that can fail without any real problem.
I need a comb and get 2/$1 to my door. $3/4/5 each in a physical store for the same. I don't think you're appreciating how often these are literally the same products.
The retail sector has long ago entered enshittification. I'm not blind to the real people working in the field, but paying more for a product does not increase the chance of any positive environmental or social outcome. Feeding the beast, feeds their investors.
There is no ethical consumption.
"What, me worry?"
Tons of people. My wife bought a $7 digital camera off of there for one of our kids and 2 years later, both of our kids still love playing with it and it works perfectly fine. We've bought a couple of other toys off of there without issue. But yeah, the majority of the products on there are typically garbage.
Only thing I worry about with toys is if the plastic they use is non-toxic. Most cheap toys sold online aren’t tested for plastic toxicity.
True enough, but toxic toys aren't super common in the US. It certainly happens, but they eventually get detected and recalled. That being said, with Trump's plans for gutting regulatory bodies even further, I'll be much less inclined to order cheap toys from online.
Ive never heard of anything from temu or similar being recalled
It happens on a regular basis
Nothing in the article you linked states any sort recalls just companies stating that they take safety seriously. We all know that if a big corporation is saying something its definitely fact and theyd never lie.
If your kid tries to eat their camera you have bigger issues to worry about.
Heavy metals and volatile chemicals can leech through skin. Some have cumulative effects.
If you think toxic means harmful only if you eat it, I've got a glow in the dark watch to sell you.
That will match my authentic late 1800s green wallpaper perfectly.
Not the best example, the health risks from radium dials were mostly to the people that painted them, because they licked their brushes to point them.
mostly is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Would you like to buy my glow in the dark watch, then?
My coworker is obsessed with Temu. He buys like 10 things, typically 8 of them are garbage and he returns them and 2 are fine which he keeps.
I've never heard him talk about great things he gets, but he's constantly talking to me about "Look how little I paid for this thing!"
Returns? My wife does the same as your coworker, but anything she doesn't like they refund her and tell her to keep. We call it Freemu.
It’s like the hot pocket of stores- take from package, place directly in toilet.
My 60+ mother was like that, until I convinced her to stop. Once she ordered a hat, didn’t like it, so tried to send it back. Temu just gave back her money, and told her to keep it. I bet it’s a quality product
As a counterpoint, I've bought loads of really good cycling accessories from AliExpress. It's not impossible to buy high-quality things from China - this is after all where a large part of everything is manufactured these days - you just have to be careful not to fall for the offers that are just obviously too good to be true.
AliExpress is great if you're running like a small Etsy shop or something with stuff you make and you need like 250 metal clasps for $20. Or 3000 electromechanical relays to build a relay CPU. They have some of the most random shit in bulk.
Same people who would buy the same dropshipped product at Amazon but at 1/3 of the price.
Not temu, but I buy loads of stuff from aliexpress, from dice to entire 3d printers.
I got some really nice plexiglass display stands from there for my display case for really cheap. But other than that, I won't buy anything that's obviously crap. Oh yeah I got some string lights too, like 50 for 2 bucks and they work really well.
I've met people that have gotten decent stuff off there. Their clothes seem nice and the electronics are hit and miss.
It's about the same rate of crap to quality as EBay these days, and Amazon is only marginally better.
eBay is completely different though, since they have a lot of consumer protections, as well as a variety of services and used products. I got my phone on eBay used, which was about half the cost of buying new, and the phones was <6 months old. I also got a smart watch on eBay refurbished, again about half the price and there's zero indication on the watch that it's used or refurbished. I buy used Switch games (w/ case) on eBay as well, which aren't as good of a deal, but I still routinely get them $30-40 when they'd normally retail for $50-60.
You can buy utter crap on eBay, but you can also buy high quality used products. On Amazon, those same used products tend to be about 10% more expensive (my experience), and Temu just doesn't have anything similar.
If you're after cheap everyday items, shop at your local dollar store or buy on AliExpress. If you're after new electronics, wait until one of the regular sales (usually holiday season and tax season), or shortly after the next version launches, and then shop online (lots of retailers). If you're after used electronics, check your local classifieds, and fall back to eBay.
At no point is Temu on my list of options.
You've clearly never lost a dispute on eBay. It's possibly the worst customer experience I've had.
I needed a glass part for a projector, it showed up broken. Tried to send it back and the seller offered like a 10% refund. eBay...after waiting a week (mandatory dispute resolution time) showed up, spent another week trying to meditate, the just said fuck it, the seller is right, eat a dick and your broken color wheel.
eBay gives you the illusion of consumer protection until you actually need it.
But no, based on some of the car parts and things I've gotten off eBay...the quality is objectively not better than what I've seen off Temu.
You can't trust ebay ratings either because if you have a bad experience they often won't let you post a review
That's really too bad. I have never had to file a dispute since everything I've ordered has so far been as expected. Then again, I haven't had any problems in my area with shipping companies mishandling packages either, so YMMV in your area if that's a common issue.
My favorite thing I've got off eBay so far was a catalytic converter. It was empty.
My state doesn't do emissions, and I kind of knew what I was getting...but wow...I can't believe a company would allow that in the first place.
Wow, that's ridiculous...