politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
view the rest of the comments
This is exactly it. A lot of people are struggling. They see less jobs, less pay, meanwhile the rich get richer. They see a system that benefits everybody except them. So Trump comes along and says he's going to fuck up the system. That sounds pretty good. And if he can make a decent excuse that he's been fucked by the system too, people are willing to overlook a lot.
Plus, let's not forget Harris had very little real message. Obama had a message- hope, change, yes we can. Hillary was as status quo as you can get, and people wants to reform. Kamala's message was basically 'I'm not Trump' but unfortunately that's not good enough to get you elected. Especially not when, before Biden dropped out and she got anointed, she was polling in the single digits.
I'm just a foreigner who is very interested in global politics and from what I saw, Harris did have a real message, with policies to boot. Such has first home owners grant, small business grant and the goal of increasing the size of the middle class, which means giving more opportunities to lower class.
Trump on the other hand was ranting incoherently and when he was coherent, sent a message that he was going to take people's rights away.
I don't understand how Harris needed to be clearer when it was as clear as night and day that she was the best choice economically and would provide a more stable future. In my opinion, it wasn't Harris' fault she lost. She ran a decent campaign. It's just that America is more than not racist, sexist and uneducated.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying US is any worse or better. Heck, Australia voted no to indigenous recognition in our constitution while the US actually has support for their indigenous communities. We're racist, dumb and sexist AF too. This is just an example of how powerful misinformation can be.
Harris had some policies, but not a real underlying message. She could have made a message like 'bring back the American dream' and that might have gotten her a win. Obama's message was 'yes we can'. Trump's message is 'make America great again'. You need a theme message like that, if you only talk positions you get lost in the noise of our shitty media.
"We're not going back" was her message according to that philosophy.
If she was actually using that message, which I never heard, no wonder she lost. People don't want the absence of something, they want radical change. They want a country that works for the middle class rather than just for the 1%. That's why Obama's message resonated. And that's why Trump's message resonates. He at least acknowledges that shit's broken and he promises to fix it. He may be the wrong person to fix it and he may have no interest in fixing it, but his message at least acknowledges that there is a serious problem.
I don't know what to tell you dude. I'm just a foreigner and I heard that message over and over. It was as clear as day for me.
However, message or no, the US have put a convicted felon in charge of the country. I'm gobsmacked by that.
The USA does have racist and sexist people but I don't think that was a driving factor in this election. The news certainly favors portraying the opinions of the more outspoken "crazy" people because that gets views. I think a lot of people in the USA are fine with gay and trans rights. The real issue is increasing costs, people care less about minority rights than being able to feed their own family. I do think Harris's tax and economic plans made more sense and I wanted her to try to make them a reality, but I think a lot of people here viewed these as the promises Biden made and couldn't follow thru on. Cancelling student debt was a huge thing Biden tried to do but ultimately couldn't.
Wasn't the student debt thing knocked back during the political process by the opposition? I wouldn't say it's Biden's fault for not being able to pass that one through.
Ah yes, the ol', "the Democrats didn't deliver on it so I'll vote (or not vote at all, leading to a favorable situation) for the people who blocked it every step of the way", strategy. Galaxy brain tier tactics.
People want change. It's like they're fixing a car and the correct tool isn't doing the job. So they break out a hammer to at least get the bolt moving. Yeah, it's gonna fuck other things up but it will at least do something.
That is a profoundly stupid idea.
I didn’t say it was smart