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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 323 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Literally in a car with an immigrant right now who voted Trump because things were cheaper before covid.

FFS.

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 201 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anecdotal evidence that the right is for the uneducated.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 108 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anecdotally... About 75% of the right that I know/met.

The other 25% is a mix of racism, greed, and conspiracy theory.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Every time they'll be complaining about the price hikes under Trump, just remind them of why they voted for Trump. This is the best course of action against "collective amnesia" as we call it in Hungary.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

Oh alongside the loss of benefits they rely on (which I told them about), the pandemic potential with the worst Kennedy, even their friends which are of varying ethnicities and going to be targeted, the list is.... Long.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

How do you come back from it?

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 2 points 1 month ago

Which is why every time something bad or good happens, I'll be posting #ThankRepublicans over and over. People love to bitch, so put it squarely with them.

[–] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Things will have to be really really bad for MAGA to notice and then actually acknowledge issues. Even then they might use excuses and blame others.

COVID handling was objectively terrible, with plenty of examples of mismanagement, but they've basically completely forgotten about it and the 'mismanagement' they might point to are the availability of vaccines, or the ability of workplaces to make people wear masks.

They can also completely ignore the blatant corruption with employing close family members as advisors and diplomats, while on the other side, even leaning on a family name to get a job was too much. Don't forget that they've also come to the conclusion than Jan 6 wasn't bad.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Solid distinction.

Religion primed the rubes, and a new godhead told them he is their salvation.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Religion didn't prime them. Religion merely exploits the same human psychological weaknesses. This is why they go hand in hand.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hmm. Maybe look up what priming (verb) means.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know what it means. I guess I didn't make my point clear enough, that's on me. I didn't think I had to write it for an eli5 audience.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Whatever makes you feel better

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So sad that dumbasses who think the President controls grocery store prices and gas prices have done this to us all.

I voted for Harris and my state went red for Trump as usual. Just sad and disgusted at it all today.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How do you expect people to think any differently when there is nobody combatting that narrative at the national level? That is something the Democrats could have been hammering on.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Uh, just basic knowledge of how the President's job works? Stuff we learn in grade school. Everyone should know this, but people are idiots.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right, which is why you educate them and make the case for them to vote for you, or else the other side will spread their disinformation without any competing narrative. That's kind of the entire point of a presidential campaign. Just calling people idiots isn't going to make them not be idiots.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In the context of this chain, it should be noted most immigrants don't go through US grade schools.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Immigrants should do their civic duty as members of the society they wish to join, by learning basic civics.

But overall, this election is the fault of religious dumbasses who are brainwashed by dumbass preachers illegally promoting their politics based on religious fantasies about demons and armageddon.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 0 points 1 month ago

The democrats were too busy staring at him.

[–] doublehelix@lemmy.cafe 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Grocery stores are making record profits. Do they really think they are going to voluntarily cut prices? They know there will be no oversight under trump (not that Biden did anything about price gouging). Prices are going to go up even higher.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not if people don't have enough money, then they'll take the five finger discount.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't put it past the stores to ask for an executive order to make theft punishable by losing fingers.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't expect everybody to be politically aware, but there's "not politically aware" and then there's whatever that is.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] ealoe@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Instead of mocking people like this, us on the left really need to understand them and how to appeal to them better than Trump. Dude is a billionaire and managed to convince working people he's on their side. He's winning the populism game because no one else is even playing it. Time to beat him at his own game

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How do you get the Democrats to run somebody like Sanders when they don't even have a primary? The DNC boned the entire country. Again.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

In related news:

In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders. Even former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid admitted in July 2016, “I knew—everybody knew—that this was not a fair deal.”

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't pretend to know how to accomplish this. I may be completely wrong here, but two things that have to go:

  • Religious thought ("faithbrain" or the Peter Pan-esque belief that things are true because you believe they are true, despite a lack of evidentiary or even argumentative support, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary)
  • Social media bubbles (billionaires controlling the content people see, creating bubbles of "information" that skew the public in their favor)

There's almost certainly more to do as well, but those things stand out to me. Also, it seems hard to believe that we could make any progress on these fronts given the current situation.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This won't change. Democrats have to take a lesson in human behaviour. Republican tactics work. Embrace them. Exploit them.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I keep waiting for the Left to fight dirty, but... We go high, they go low, and low is what gets elected

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just wait until the leopards start eating their faces. Act surprised.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I'm going to try and leave.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, but that doesn't matter to republicans.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yep, their plan is to remove all immigrants

[–] Baggins@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

A lot of their own parents and grandparents are going to have to go then. The leopards will not go hungry.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Only the ones who aren't "white".