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[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Linus comment on the subject is the corn in the shit:

"Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about.

It's entirely clear why the change was done, it's not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to "grass root" it by Russian troll factories isn't going to change anything.

And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren't troll farm accounts - the "various compliance requirements" are not just a US thing.

If you haven't heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by "news", I don't mean Russian state-sponsored spam.

As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too."

Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted

What was the big crime of this maintainers? Being from Russia.

Meanwhile, Torvalds and the Linux Foundation are madly boot-licking and cock-sucking the Mossad and the IDF.

[–] rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 22 hours ago

Linus is a very intelligent person in the field he has talent. Outside of it, especially if it gets combine with his attitude, he as quite a clown.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 day ago

the "russian troll" statement makes it clear that this guy is deep in nafo stuff

[–] poo_22@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What was the big crime of this maintainers?

Exactly, and even if he booted them from the maintainers list, why does he revert the code changes as well? ON WHAT BASIS!?

LINUS YOU FUCK

FUCK

[–] poo_22@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's entirely clear why the change was done

No, like please explain it!!!! WTF

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the “various compliance requirements” are not just a US thing.

True, is a NATO thing.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

From the comments:

Linus reports to IBM/RedHat and their requirements are now Linux/Linus requirements. As a result today we can officially stop calling the Linux kernel "open".

~~And a large part of the open stack as well, including g-libraries, gnome, wayland and everything hosted on freedesktop.org.~~ *

EDIT: * No relation at all.

[–] SinoSoviet_Drip@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And a large part of the open stack as well, including g-libraries, gnome, wayland and everything hosted on freedesktop.org.

This is just phoronix commenters trying to extend the anger to their favorite hate targets.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

True, freedesktop.org has no direct affiliation with the Linux Foundation.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's obvious that Linux is now under RedHat control, who themselves are controlled by the US govt. BSD's popularity is about to go up. I hope these Russian kernel maintainers switch to BSD, god knows BSD needs the drivers.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't like the BSD license very much, I am more in hope that GNU Hurd finally kicks off, but I doubt any of the two happens.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t like the BSD license very much

Why? Linux kernel is GPL, doesn't protect it from stuff like this. At least you can be certain that Theo de Raadt isn't going to kick people who contribute to BSD off the project based on their location. Contributors to tech projects should be chosen on merit, not ethnicity or citizenship (or any other characteristic that is irrelevant to the project).

[–] SinoSoviet_Drip@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know nothing about Theo de Raadt, what makes you say that he wouldn't? Never used a BSD, but not particular appealing that it's not GPL.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

what makes you say that he wouldn’t?

Because he seems like a no-bullshit kind of guy when it comes to the OS he started. I don't see him kicking Russians off the OpenBSD project just because that is the politically expedient. OpenBSD always chooses to do what is better for security than what is popular. This means they focus on the technical aspects, and don't care about the political ramifications of their decisions.

He also went to a ruBSD conference in 2014. http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140115054839

This is his personal website: https://theos.com/deraadt/

OpenBSD doesn't have a Code of Conduct either, because the project is run by "old school" techies/computer nerds who don't need a document to tell them racism or homophobia is bad and that people who work on a project together shouldn't insult one another based on characteristics that have nothing to do with the person's ability to code. So if Theo/OpenBSD didn't follow the latest CoC fad, it's unlikely they will go for the Russia hate fad.

For comparison, this is the Linux Foundation's Code of Conduct:

  1. Never harass or bully anyone verbally, physically or sexually.
  1. Never discriminate on the basis of personal characteristics or group membership.

They should have added a caveat for Russians. Further proof that CoC is about control over others. It's obvious that leaders of projects don't need to abide by the CoC.

[–] Imnecomrade@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

https://hexbear.net/comment/5541326

I learned Hyperbola is moving to its BSD derivative kernel, HyperBK, on this thread, and it will be GPL.