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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Making this election about this one issue is exactly what Trump (and his ilk and foreign supporters) wants. People are falling for it again just like they did in 2016.

If you want everything to burn, and the US to cease being a country, then by all means, vote for Trump and fuck over the rest of us who are actually reasonable people who would want reasonable solutions to a wide variety of issues.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

If you want everything to burn, and the US to cease being a country, vote for Trump

That's literally the dead opposite of what would happen. Trump will make the US into an authoritarian, dictatorial police state, not dissolve it.

[–] tangentism@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But if you want US imperialism and it's unfettered support and participation in several genocides and conflicts around the globe, syphoning trillions into the military industrial complex while ignoring domestic needs yet constantly playing the "Dont vote for the bogeyman. Vote for us instead because at least we're not the bogeyman!" and wheeling out the "but trust us bro, we'll seriously look into doing something about all your concerns next election cycle" bullshit, then yes, give your support to Harris without question.

Or, you know, you could put her over the fucking coals BEFORE the election and let her know that unless she course corrects immediately, not in 30 days after the election, she ain't gonna get your vote and if trump gets in then that's all on the democrats and no-one else

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

Policies that have been in place since Reagan, but sure, let’s land it all on Kamala Harris, right this moment.

I’m sure it has nothing to do with sowing discord and divisiveness instead of dealing with the actual immediate threat — a self-admitted wanna-be dictator with a sycophantic Supreme Court and nothing to stop him from immediately ruining the country.

If Trump gets in, it’s because of the immensely ill-informed, willfully ignorant, or havoc-wreaking/rapacious voters, not because Kamala wasn’t raked over the coals.

Keep trying this bullshit, I’m sure it’ll work on some.

[–] InevitableList@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump's foreign policy is preferable to Kemala's. If Kemala wants people to vote for her she should pursue better policies.

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

His foreign policy of “Fuck you unless you pay us more” is preferable?

Also, her name is spelled Kamala and I’d wager you know that.

But thanks for trying.