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Why is it that Americans refer to 24 hour time as military time? I understand that the military uses the 24hr format but I don’t understand why the general public would refer to it like that?

It makes it seem like it’s a foreign concept where as in a lot of countries it’s the norm.

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[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Let’s go out to eat, I made reservations for 7.

Are we having breakfast or dinner?

Without context, tough to tell. That’s why 24hr is superior.

[–] Hexous@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dinner, because if it's earlier than 7 AM and you're inviting me to an impromptu breakfast, we're not friends anymore, and I'm going back to sleep.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

Saturday, I'm going to bed at 9. Forensic that one out.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Lunch. It's 7 people.

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except that's not actually an issue in practice. In a real-world conversation you would disambiguate with "Let's get breakfast" or "Let's get dinner" if you're not referring to the immediate future. I honestly can't think of a single time that I've been genuinely confused in this way.

Edit: Also, when would you ever make reservations for breakfast? Unless this is a joke that's gone over my head.

[–] Auduras@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Closest thing I can think of is making reservations for Brunch. Some places it's necessary.

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Brunch wouldn't be at 7 though

[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The context is the am/pm after

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The context is not always given though.

With 24hours, that context is always given.

[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I won't disagree on that and do see your point, 100% context for sure

We do have more context than it seems though, if someone tells me to show up to work at 7, I can assume it's a.m. If someone says they'll meet me at 12, it's going to be mid-day etc. If it's 7 and bright outside it's in the am, if it's 7 and dark it's p.m. It's not too tricky with context clues

But, being my own devil's advocate, you are right. No ambiguity in 24 hour time. I don't have an issue with 24 hour time, was raised on 12 hour so it's natural but 24 isn't bad either, and is more exact in some ways.

I do prefer 12 hours though, makes the day feel shorter like working two 4 hour shifts instead of a solid 8. Same time but one feels shorter so I apply that to most days. As another mentioned, working a 9-5 seems short when compared to working a 9-17 😂

If it were up to me though, A.M and P.M would be visible on every 12 hour clock, I do agree it's weird that some are made without it, sure it is easy to figure out whether a.m or p.m via context clues but having any ambiguity in a form of measurement seems odd, but making a dinner date for 7 and showing up at 7 a.m would be odd as well I guess, though not everything is so clear.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

When it's unclear I'll say 7 in the evening, or 7 in the morning, 7pm, 7am. 7 at night, supper at 7, whichever one isn't pitch dark. There are many ways to go about it.