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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good start. Then go vegetarian of even vegan and you should be good ;-)

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's all it took. The crisis has actually been over for ages ever since I have stopped eating meat. I've done it.

you should be good

Good news, the planet is now no longer on a direct course towards being rendered inhabitable due to being destroyed for profit. I. AM. GOOD.

Problem solved. Thank you so much on behalf of all future generations of the planet.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I could tell you the facts, like how stopping eating meat is one of the easiest ways to make a huge change. I could give you some studies, show you how almost every report on climate change in the last 15 years has listet going more plant based is part of their recommendations. But you know what? I'm just fucking over with people that aren't grown up enoth to even do the slightest little change in their lives.

We deserve the future that awaits us.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm slightly fed up with being promised that going meat free will get me a livable planet when I retire because I have fucking delivered my end of the bargain. I want my livable planet now.

It's like

"You can improve our situation if you grab a thimble and start scooping water out of the boat now."

"There's still the giant hole in the hull that brings in a lot more water than my little thimble can deal with. What do we do about that?"

"Shut up and keep scooping :D"

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. The beef thing has become the main call to action while ignoring that beef consumption has been falling since the 70's. It's also not clear how much of that carbon is part of the existing carbon cycle.

The solution is adding less carbon to the existing cycle which means stopping pumping including and especially "natural" gas.

Everything else is performative.

Only when we stop adding it to our environment can we have any hope at sequestration.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"natural” gas

It might seem a misnomer nowadays, but it really is a good name. It replaced town gas or syn-gas, which was artificially produced at coal gasification plants through pyrolysis and pumped into homes for heating, cooking, and lighting. It was a long time until natural gas replaced it. That shit was loaded with carbon monoxide and is the reason for the old head in the oven suicide trope.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That misses the point. It's methane. Burning it releases carbon dioxide and whatever doesn't burn or leaks is directly adding methane. The heat from burning it is more heat into the atmosphere.

Since we're pumping it from underground every bit of it adds directly to the carbon cycle.

There is too much focus on what is already in the carbon cycle and while we are adding to the carbon cycle, none of it matters.