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[โ€“] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Serious question, are there any true communist/Marxist nations today that would be examples of your statement?

Sorry about terribad formatting, old phone is old

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Historically there have been more, such as the USSR, but currently the DPRK, PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, and Laos are explicitly Marxist. There's a lot of misinformation surrounding them, but they retain Marxism.

[โ€“] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is it your stance that every nominally Marxist country is actually Marxist? That there are no revisionist countries even though, for example, the USSR spent most of its existence being revisionist?

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say there are any "orthodox" Marxist countries, most have taken some fair bit of revisionism, but are still Socialist and practice Marxism.

[โ€“] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough, I mostly agree. I can imagine that China, Vietnam, and Laos are on the list because of, uh, capitalist roading, and the DPRK is nationalist to a reactionary degree and kind of culty, but what criticism would you apply to Cuba? Do they do capitalist roading too? I don't hear much about them in that regard.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If we are strictly speaking ideological purity, the DPRK's Marxism-Leninism with Juche influences is probably the least revisionist overall. China is the most "relevant," of course, plus SWCC is legitimately a return to Marxism as compared to Maoism.

Cuba has some Capitalist roading, yes, it heavily depends on the tourist industry and said industry is decently privitized.

Ultimately though, a strong understanding of Dialectics and the Base and Superstructure is necessary when judging the impact of "Capitalist Roading."

[โ€“] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't the DPRK operate under the Juche political concept?

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Juche is basically Marxism-Leninism, but with a focus on self-reliance.