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You are right in general that SCMP is going to cheer on China, but MBFC is a stupid, question-begging, centrist website run by someone with no qualifications and spread around so centrists can use it as a "gotcha" in the style of an informal fallacy. I'm sure that others will have takedowns saved to share with you.

I think the article is good since it's just dryly reporting on a survey from what I can tell, I just sympathize with being wary.

It bugs me just saying "the Chinese" did it. It was the Chinese company Ex-Robot.

The term neoliberal encompasses conservatives unless it's from the standpoint of a feudal society

I find it unfathomable how someone can come to that of all conclusions. Obviously she doesn't have a commitment to it religiously or out of ethnic supremacy, but it's just as obvious that she's interested in being the slay kween on top of the bloodiest empire in history, and so she knows it behooves her to take care of all of its apparati for maintaining power.

When you're a top-level politician like Kamala is failing-up into being, Israel's appeal to you in not the chump change from AIPAC (not that you don't take that too), it's Israel's actual use, the reason that AIPAC is allowed to exist when virtually no other foreign lobby is, that being that it spreads chaos and destruction among America's enemies in the Middle East.

The idea that AIPAC effectively authored and single-handedly perpetuates zionism in the US political establishment is both antisemitic and just plain stupid. Where do you think they got the money from?! It didn't just spring from Palestinian blood or from being Jewish or whatever, that money comes from the US initially! Or by proxy from US resources. The money AIPAC has is circling back to the US like in a money-laundering scheme.

I said "setting aside what we think of Hamas" for a reason, if that helps you interpret my meaning, I'm just doing a bad job managing both impulsively responding after the conversation ran its course and also avoiding getting into a useless dispute about the main force of military resistance to an ongoing genocide.

That's interesting. I clearly hadn't been giving those protestors enough credit, but the corollary of that is that Kamala, while an absolute zionist bastard, was still generalizing but not nearly as aggressively as I thought (there are definitely a bunch of triangles). I underestimated the ability of westerners to cut through zionist concern-trolling, even if not all present can.

Aside from the fact that she's clearly using it as an opportunity to make it look like the entire protest (and perhaps all pro-Palestine protest) took such a tact

pro-Hamas messages

If you mean "From the river to the sea" I swear to God

Dude, setting aside what we think of Hamas, I wasn't talking about Hamas, I was talking about people in America protesting against genocide being branded as terrorist sympathizers.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/25/statement-by-vice-president-kamala-harris-3/

She "knows what's up," and has self-consciously chosen to side with genocide, branding all of its opponents terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.

Have they been supported by AIPAC? Surely, but them personally getting a check from a foreign lobby that is mysteriously allowed to exist in US politics is not a good explanation for what is going on. Israel serves a purpose extending America's power in the Middle East and terrorizing its rivals. If Israel was against America's interests in the region, AIPAC wouldn't exist and America's lavish cooperation with Israel would not be happening.

It's silly to act like individual values are some sacred, unassailable thing gifted to everyone's soul by the heavens, rather than something that came from a combination of inborn human traits and memories*, i.e. they are something that is contingent, changing, and in no way above being questioned.

It's also silly to act like it makes sense to just have a blanket acceptance of something if it's an "individual value" even though, when we look at the world, individual values can sometimes be extremely fucked up and we shouldn't allow people who would enact those values to abuse with impunity.

*"memories" is simplistic, but I don't think it is catastrophically so.

Telegram is awful, but that's mainly because it is readily bent towards the interests of malicious state actors like we see here. This headline is produced by two things being bad, not just one.