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    submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by tsugu@slrpnk.net to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    I'm switching to Debian right away, this is nonsense

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    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I mean...

    They have GUI system upgrades, this is kind of a pain in Debian

    Okay, now I updated 12 laptops from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 and...

    • it always hangs at "swap deb Thunderbird with snap", like, always. 12 times.
    • the wallpaper is gone after the upgrade, every single time
    • there are like 10 buttons to click
    • you need to be a sudo user (the updater shows but just vanishes when being a nonsudoer!)
    • on 2 machines some random repo issues caused a silent error. Needed to apt update in the terminal, fixed
    • there are tons of snap packages, and all are outdated, yay! Installing those on a sudo account causes them to fail on the nonsudo account.

    Damn this is bad. And this is like, the best of the best distros?

    Doubt that. Fedora Atomic has way more potential, while only being user friendly as uBlue.

    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Every couple of years I think to myself "Ubuntu can't be that bad, can it? I must be misremembering. Surely it's just some combination of my memory exaggerating how terrible it was and my lackluster Linux skills, which have since improved. Everybody still recommends it as a beginner distro, right? Why'd I stop using it?"

    And then I download Ubuntu.

    And then I remember.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

    It works great as a quick and easy WSL module if you need to quickly patch the kernel of your embedded Linux device at work 🤗, well, maybe it would have been just as easy using just debian, to be fair 🤔

    [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Ubuntu is very much NOT the best of the distros anymore.

    I’ve been using Kinoite on one of my daily drivers, and so far I’m loving it.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I mean I could list you at least 5 things that kinda suck on Fedora Atomic. But yes the core principle is so much better.

    [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

    I don’t mean to imply it’s perfect, but as a relatively popular distro to use as a daily driver, I’ve been happy with it overall.

    [–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You can install Synaptic in Debian. Problem solved? I love the terminal so this isn't really my fight but you could spend some time to make Debian GUI-based if you wanted to.

    Also LMDE exists, which Mint-ifies Debian and gives you a GUI option for basically everything you can imagine.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

    Pretty sure KDE's Discover store hooks into Debian's repos just fine too

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 months ago

    Multiple reasons why this is not a good option.

    • no fwupd
    • no flatpak
    • still requires sudo
    • mint uses XOrg and is very limited