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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

ITT: we do the white moderate thing MLK talked about where we set a timetable for someone's rights. I'm sure one day it'll be politically convenient to support trans people, y'all just hang in there.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

ITT: a bunch of leftists destroying the most progressive party because it failed their purity test by not talking about something that anyone with a bit of logic would know would lose them votes even if it's known they're in favor of it.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The 'most progressive party'?? By what measure? Because they aren't as openly fascist as the Republicans? Kamala has sworn to appoint at least one Republican, to be tough on crime, increase the strength of the military, be as or more anti-immigration than Trump, has shown no interest in healthcare reform, and refused to even consider ceasing the arming of genocidaires. What does it mean to be progressive to you?

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

That's not the message I got at all. The message I got is that the Dems are going to continue what they did with Biden -- bringing manufacturing home so we get good jobs, take on the moneyed interests in housing so we have more housing and hopefully cheaper housing, get student loan programs in place that get the wealth extraction out and make it so that you can get college educated without a debt hanging over you for the rest of your life. And that the Dems stand against hatred of all kinds, including anti-minority hatred, anti-gay hatred, anti-trans hatred, and frankly, all other hatred.

Harris is going to appoint a single Republican to her administration? So what? Her administration is going to have 25 other people she's NOT said will be Republican, not to mention the various appointed positions that aren't the top 26 positions of the Cabinet. And maybe the Republican is in one of those lower positions, not on the cabinet. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, because I know there will be 26 not-just-Republicans-but-Qooqs-who-think-I-both-eat-and-fuck-babies if Trump wins.

America isn't very Progressive, so Dems not being progressive enough doesn't surprise me. I think we got some serious progressive ideas pushed the last admin, though. And if you want non-Progressive, well, look no further than the Republicans. Republicanism is where Progressive ideas go to die, and if Trump wins in November, I guarantee you you'll watch as your ideas are strangled in the crib.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago

You've got two parties that can be elected in the US, which one is the most progressive?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 13 points 3 months ago

'Destroying' the 'most progressive' party?

In what way is anyone destroying the democratic party, and in what way are the democrats making progress?

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's more deontologists vs consequentialists.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There is absolutely no deontological duty to pander to identitarians and cry-bullies.