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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Here's a wild idea... tax corporations based on income, not profit.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As much as I like the idea it aint exactly a clean cut rule, a lot of companies operate on slim marjins due to loans or just that being how it is so taxing income could fuck over way more than just the greedy assholes. I do think taxing based off of stock prices should be a thing, the stocks reflect the physical value right? That means they should be able to pay the taxes.

[–] ultramaven@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man it’s so fucking straightforward for the IRS to see that Mom’s fettuccine restaurant is a little bit different from fucking Amazon, Meta, Ford etc from just putting all of it’s money into itself and calling it a loss.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh certainly but heres the thing we live in a legalistic society and the sons of bitches would figure out some way of fucking up that type of tax.

[–] ultramaven@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well you brought up like the most manipulatable resource as a means of taxation, so I see why you feel they’d always win. I mean Trump’s entire career has been made simply lying about the value of his assets when it suited him. That’s not a “loophole”, inasmuch as it’s fraud that isn’t caught.

You want it to end? Give the IRS more money. Allow the FEC to attack monopolies and monopsonies. The rich simply lie and print advertisements convincing rubes to destroy the system. Regulate the news, advertising. “Ohh but mah freeze peach”, well then you get unregulated, untaxable, unrestrained capitalistic greed.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Fair enough, but I still would say taxing income of companies and businesses in general seems like a generally bad idea. Id rather not take out the local apple orchards just to take down apple. Still I feel like the easiest method to cripple most companies is to outlaw stock for everything outside of maybe resource extraction and maybe a handful of others.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, when I pay my taxes, it's based on how much money I earned, not how much money I have left over at the end of the year.

If the argument is "Corporations are people, my friend" they should be paying an income tax, same as anyone else.

[–] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Holy shit if a corporation is a person...

...does this mean a person is a corporation?