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This is just an argument for ceding space to conservatives, which makes them seem more prevalent than they are, because they've driven the opposition away.
Whether social media is essential to life or not, it's a normal part of modern life, and telling people to avoid it is no different than telling people to avoid bars or clubs if they don't want to be harassed. It's just victim blaming.
OP's argument is spot-on: don't get angry at "sub-optimal" reactions to right-wing assholes' rhetoric, get angry at the right-wing assholes pushing that rhetoric.
The "wer schreit hat nicht recht" (lit. "who shouts is not right") schtick of treating emotions as childish or bad in an argument, is an unhealthy, toxic trait anyways, and we should be rejecting it roundly rather than trying to 'win' by that metric.
Irony? I think you're perhaps assuming that my argument for not ceding space to conservatives is a call for equal representation of ideologies in spaces, but it's not.
I fully believe conservatism (not to be confused with the many groups that have overlap with conservatism in particular places, e.g. religious people, who are not in fact all conservative) is a harmful ideology, and should be driven out of public spaces like assholes should be kicked out of bars when they harass people.
I'm not making an argument against echo chambers, just ceding space to conservatism.
Would love to hear your thoughts in more depth on this. What is the significance?
Hello there. I assume you have good intentions with your comment, but I read it as if you were talking to an idea, not a person. A person has feelings that they want to express and be validated. Treat the wound before discussing how to prevent it.
You offered a solution, disengaging, which is nice. I also believe we have a responsibility to ourselves. The problem that I want to point out is you might not have asked yourself the question: "Why don't they leave the situation? " Can you think of a reason? There must be, we can even ask if necessary. You see, what's non essential in my life might be very important for someone else.
About space and fairness. This is not a childish dispute. You have the right to your space. In practical terms, they will follow you home and take it from you if you let them. I'm not being hyperbolic. They don't want you to exist anywhere and will follow you everywhere. Beehaw is a gated space that so many people disapprove, but that serves a very specific purpose, being a safe space, because hiding and isolating yourself from the world is not good to your mental health either.
This is a fancy way of victim blaming. People don't deserve to be bullied in any context.