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Maps and documents recovered from the bodies of Hamas attackers reveal a coordinated plan to target children and take hostages inside an Israeli village near Gaza.

Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa'ad, to "kill as many people as possible," seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip.

The attack plans, which are labeled "top secret" in Arabic, appear to be orders for two highly trained Hamas units to surround and infiltrate villages and target places where civilians, including children, gather. Israeli authorities are still determining the death toll in Kfar Sa'ad.

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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Maybe, but that won't mean they're wrong, nor does it mean that they're right.

Be skeptical of any evidence coming out of an active warzone.You don't have to dismiss it outright, but you also shouldn't accept it outright.

There many domains within modern warfare, including the information domain.

Israel, Hamas, Iran, and all of their supporters and proxies, are actively shaping the information domain, both online, and on the ground.

As an example from the other side, you should keep an eye for the Teddy bears in pictures of destroyed buildings in Gaza. Everything is turned to rubble, but Teddy bears and children's toys have a mystical ability to remain intact, on top of the rubble, and picture perfect.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You don’t have to dismiss it outright, but you also shouldn’t accept it outright.

Why are measured statements like this always so hard for people to fathom?

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because they're rightfully skeptical of "both sides" arguments, which I understand.

But it's just a fact that both sides are engaging in heavy, unprecedented, levels of informational warfare.

Insurgencies themselves are basically violent marketing campaigns, they are not won, or lost, on the battlefield.

Which is precisely why everyone should be skeptical of these kind of stories. Not the point of automatic dismissal, but just stored with a few grains of salt, to be reevaluated at a later date, and with more confirmation, or additional credible information.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I suppose that's a fair point. This is one of the only times the "both sides" argument actually is valid.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Because humans are pathetic emotionally turbulent morons that sometimes manage to act logically