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Maps and documents recovered from the bodies of Hamas attackers reveal a coordinated plan to target children and take hostages inside an Israeli village near Gaza.

Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa'ad, to "kill as many people as possible," seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip.

The attack plans, which are labeled "top secret" in Arabic, appear to be orders for two highly trained Hamas units to surround and infiltrate villages and target places where civilians, including children, gather. Israeli authorities are still determining the death toll in Kfar Sa'ad.

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[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It would be hard to say what Israel is lying about in this situation. Overall, it's not like we don't have verifiable evidence Hamas planned a invasion and executed it.

We don't exactly need more proof they were responsible.

But my overall problem has to do with the fact that anyone could have printed these documents and labeled them "Top Secret" and "found" them on enemy combatants. Specifically anyone with an A4 type color printer.

I don't think Israel has a reason to lie about this, but I will state the obvious that this evidence is paper thin in comparison to the live videos of hostages.

[–] _cnt0@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I have no doubt about Hamas fighters invading Israel. That is pretty evident. But this kind of "evidence" found on the fighters is pretty suspicious. It is as credible as the pristine passports of the terrorists found near the WTC after 9/11.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AnYoNe WiTh A pRiNtEr

They have no reason to lie but you think they planted it, hmmm. Yeah top secret on the documents totally means they’re fake because Hamas wouldn’t try to keep battle plans quiet. We know they were organized af but a map is a bridge too far?

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They have no reason to lie but you think they planted it, hmmm.

Forgive me, it looks like you walked into our hypothetical discussion and took it at face value. But that is my fault for using a double negative.

Overall, it's not like we don't have verifiable evidence Hamas planned a invasion and executed it.

We don't exactly need more proof they were responsible.

Though if you want me to be honest, I think lying is more in human nature then telling the truth. We will lie for something as simple as winning an online discussion, or as heartfelt to save the people we love.

I don't like the evidence because it is evidence that is easily created. Anyone with an A4 type printer can take a picture of "Plans" and present it as evidence. I want hard evidence that I can crack my teeth on, not this soggy bread evidence.