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France is mobilising 7,000 soldiers and increasing its alert status to "emergency attack" level after the death of a teacher in the northeast town of Arras, stabbed to death Friday by a former student with a record of Islamic radicalisation.

President Emmanuel Macron made the decision after convening an emergency meeting of his security cabinet on Friday night.

Macron has described the stabbing attack, which left two other staff members at the school seriously injured, as "Islamist terrorism."

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[–] Neon@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Religion of Peace" my Ass

fucking Terrorists

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If terrorists decided to use "America" as branding, then saying "home of the brave my ass" would be as equally invalid a statement.

[–] Gerula@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they don't, so you argument is invalid.

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

... that doesn't invalidate my point at all - their choice of religious affiliation does not define the religion. Just as in my example, the theoretical "Terrorists of America" don't get to define what American values are, just because of their name. A counter group could take a similar "America" themed name with completely opposite values and objectives and it wouldn't mean jack shit.

[–] Gerula@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohhhh, we're discussing hypotheticals, sorry I thought you were serious.

Because then for sure you would have taken in consideration that religious affiliation, nationality and branding are pretty different things. The level of psychological involvement and the way these elements interact and define ones individual structure is quite incomparable. Usually for religious people (especially fundamenlists) religion does define their personal values, morality an so on. This IS the purpose of religion after all.

And then of course you would have taken in consideration that this is a conflict with mainly a religious conflict. Although you can say palestinians fight mainly for their land the other Muslim countries that support them have also religious motives.

And of course it's a fact that they didn't choose to take another religious affiliation or as you say a different brand.

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't wish to be cruel or unpleasant and i appreciate the reply, but this really doesnt grasp what i outlined before

[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ok, then maybe I'm at fault and I didn't understand what you were trying to say.

[–] dunestorm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No they are just animals, the religion part is just an excuse these pathetic animals use to justify their barbaric actions.

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Which country has the most school shootings?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Classic whataboutism.

The answer is america, and 2 things can be bad at once.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What sort of reply is that to what he said?

When someone calls the USA out on their school shootings, do you then bring up Ukraine with many more dead?

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What sort of reply is that to what he said?

An honest one. There's violence everywhere. At least Palestinians and Israelis are fighting each other over land. In America you get shot over a cheeseburger or because someone else can't get laid.

When someone calls the USA out on their school shootings, do you then bring up Ukraine with many more dead?

No, I say "yeah it's unacceptable."

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

He vents his frustration about religions. While yes, violence is everywhere, it makes a ton of difference if there are < 1 homicides per 100'000 or, for example, 7. Or regarding religions: some outright want you to be violent.