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This is why I've stayed out of the fray, everyone here is a bad actor. There are decades of eye for an eye that have resulted in everyone being blind.
Revolutionary militant groups don’t spawn where material conditions are being met. If every Palestinian was “middle class,” Hamas would have never flourished. Which tells you everything about who is to blame.
To add to this and as I wrote somewhere else, the Israeli State has for so long made life so hard for Palestinians, especially in the Gaza strip, that there are now tens of thousands of Palestinians with so little to lose that joining an organisation internationally seen as a terrorist organisation is still a step-up from that.
Reminds me of the parable "the more you squeeze the more sand dissapears between your fingers".
The Israeli far-right strategy all these years in power in Israel has been one of such extreme and calous treatment of those human beings they deem as pretty much üntermensch (all with the full support of the US, by the way) that it hasn't increased Israel's security but actually done the opposite, leaving one to wonder if the strategy all along of the Israeli far-right wasn't sacrificing a few thousand Israelis in order to justify the outright genocide the Israeli Army is seems to be about to commit.
Only a fool thinks those who casually crush people from the "other group" with violence, genuinelly care about people from "their group" - that's not how killers work.
Look at the massacre apologist…
You can do many things before joining a terrorist org. Many Gazans prefer to work in Israel instead for example. And even if you did, there’s a very long path from joining for the sake of bettering you status to killing children in their beds as they sleep.
Your arguments are so "powerful" that you had to start your post by othering and then slandering the person you disagree with.
The funny bit is that in the only part that made a tiny bit of sense in that oft parroted rant of your (I could swear I've been reading those exact same words since even before the murder of Arafat), you ended up confirming my point: Gazans would much rather live and work in the same conditions as the Israeli and, lo-and-behold, those who do get a chance to even just get close to that (as they're never more than 3rd class citizens in Israel) don't join terrorist groups.
Imagine that: given people opportunities to live a half-way decent life and treat them with even just the minimum of respect, and they don't join terrorist groups. What! A! Shocker!
Oh I do, and the Palestinian population living in Israel enjoys the prosperity of israel. From the sentiment of your comments, I feel like you think Israel should somehow provide for the Palestinians in Gaza. But you see, 1. It isn’t obligated to help neighboring countries, and 2. It doesn’t want to. I don’t see Spain providing its neighbor Morroco although it would benefit the Morrocan population. I don’t see the US providing for Mexican border towns, although it may move people away from joining drug cartels (because as you said it, poor people have no choice but join criminal orgs)
That’s absolutely not true. The 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. A country that literally has a basic income program to give it’s citizens cash.
Revisionist history. It is true. May want to brush up on your history. They were Al-qaeda and were based in Afghanistan. They were fighting American Imperialism which exploits their region and extracts wealth.
Also: Free Palestine 🇵🇸
You link literally starts with “15/19 were Saudi citizens”
Also: Hamas deserves no quarter. Free Palestine from their reign of terror.
15 is not all and they didn’t live in Saudi Arabia. They were based in Afghanistan. Which had been materially devastated by a war with the USSR. If the material conditions in Afghanistan were hunky dory, the people would not have allowed it to flourish. Stop trying to distract from Israel war crimes. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
They were in Afghanistan because that’s where Al Queda was training them. They lived in Saudi Arabia, then travelled to Afghanistan. Stop making stuff up if you want to be taken seriously.
I’m sorry, you’re completely correct. /s Now maybe we can address those Israeli war crimes happening today and the plight of the Palestinians?