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I2P and it's sub 100 kb/s speed? Series, games would never finish downloading, but then also only those torrents are accessible through I2P that are published to an I2P tracker, there is no DHT (yet?). Clearnet torrents and clearnet peers are not accessible through I2P.
Or is it something on my end that makes it that slow? ISP download bandwidth is stable and much higher.
While it's true that i2p torrents are slower than clearnet torrents the speed is not really as bad in my experience. I would say i can download most shows, movies and files in general in 1-2 days max (I know that is slow in comparison, but its OK if you are just building up your library, atleast for me). On average i would say a "normal 1080p movie" finishes in 5-6 hours (In my experience). The bigger Problem is sometimes the lack of torrents and seeders, although this is getting better
1-2 days is slow but acceptable I think. It's a compromise.
But for some reason for me it's much slower, even though I run a router that participates in routing and usually has 50+ or even 3 digit share ratios, with ~80 GB traffic a day in both directions, so it must be integrated well.
Now I realized I have only tried a single I2P torrent yet, and it was just 2 MB, and my experience was coming from both i2p sites and outproxies often being very slow or unreachable with the common tunnel settings.
The total speed of my torrents has been 200KB/s, once even got 300KB/s. Honestly, that's not a problem for me; I'm not hooked and don't need an instant fix.
It's also logical that I2P can't access the clearnet. That's not the purpose of I2P. Theoretically there can be inproxies and outproxies, but AFAIK very few people operate them. Having an outproxy is like operating a TOR exit node.
Speed is side-effect of anonymity. The more people you route a request through, the slower it gets. It's at least as slow as the slowest link. A VPN is one single, high speed link, but it doesn't grant you anonymity (if the VPN provider collects logs). IINM you need at least 2 hops to be anonymous. A - B - C, B doesn't know if A is the source or just forwarding a request nor if C is the final destination or just another hop.
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At a measly 200kb/s it would have taken me more than 200 days of constant downloading at "full speed" to build my media library to were it is now (3.6tb), instead of a few days...that's not about instant fix IMO, that's just super duper slow. Few (no?) people need true anonymity for torrenting, just enough to not be indisputably linked to it so they can't take you to court.
I dunno how old you are, but I come from the time of internet where loading pictures happen line by line. It took me a decade or more to get my library.
I'm patient. I don't need my stuff to be there immediately. Maybe that's the minority, I dunno, but a little bit of anonymity and patience ain't hurt nobody.
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Old enough to have experienced the world before the internet was widely available in the "western" world. It's not about getting things instantly, but I'm also over waiting for a week+ just to download a movie. The level of anonymity that a good VPN provides is good enough for me.
That's cool. It's your choice. I'm cheap and patient, so it's all good.
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I wanted to search for the postman tracker's address, so went to check on notbob.i2p. website unreachable. Isn't this a relatively fairly popular site here?
Edit: on a second try it now loaded in ~10 seconds.
This latency is probably not to much of a problem, but two things: