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Hello World,

Today, after careful consideration and evaluation of recent events, we have decided to defederate from Lemmygrad.

Regrettably, we have observed a significant increase in hate speech and calls to violence originating from the Lemmygrad instance. Due to the severity of the posts and comments, we are not waiting for the next Lemmy update that will allow users to block instances.

At Lemmy.world, we have always strived to foster an inclusive and welcoming user environment. However, recent posts and comments from Lemmygrad have clearly violated our server rules and, more importantly, our core values. We firmly believe that hate speech and incitement of violence have no place in our community, regardless of personal beliefs or affiliations.

As always, we encourage all users to report any content they deem inappropriate or harmful. No matter one's stance in any conflict, Lemmy.world will always take immediate action to remove and ban any posts or comments that incite violence or propagate hatred.

We encourage everyone to continue engaging in discussions within the boundaries of respect and understanding. As we move forward with this decision, we remain committed to providing all community members with a safe and welcoming space. We appreciate your continued support and cooperation in upholding our shared principles.

Thank you,

The Lemmy.World Team

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[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The bit that really irked me was that it was purely performative. It seemed like literally the exact same community that populated the_donald with memes and Trump train bots and the photoshopping of Trump’s pic onto Rambo. Their posts have fuck all to do with communism just like the trump posts had nothing to do with conservative politics. It was just edge faux-outrage and basically taking an opposite position for its own sake. They could simultaneously criticize Gov Newsom for not signing a trans rights bill while praising Putin who is doing his level best to make being gay illegal. It’s a mistake to see it as political discourse when it’s really just trolling. Like on the_donald, they egg each other on and have their in jokes and memes (in both the picture sense and in the actual meme sense) about walls the same way the trumpers did with helicopters.

Defederation is the best response imo.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is funny to mention Trump around tankies and watch their heads explode. They can't pretend Trump is a communist, but their propaganda masters don't want them to turn against the Republicans, so they're just in this weird space where the only thing they can do is aggressively avoid the topic at all.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

hexbear had an entire thread with hundreds of comments where they all agreed they hated trump and viewed him as an odious fascist

https://lemmy.ml/post/4040923?scrollToComments=true

The closest thing you find to support for trump in there is some of them thinking he is a less effective imperialist.

[–] mashbooq@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen them actively celebrate that they don't suffer from "Trump derangement syndrome" like liberals (supposedly) do. The longer you watch them, the more pro-fascism you see slip through

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't forget the classical "liberals are the real fascist allies"

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Just be aware that "liberal" has a complete different meaning in the political discourse compared to what it means in the current (low quality) american political discourse. Historically liberals have been allies of fascism, indeed.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

Liberalism birthed capitalism, the greatest hierarchical economic system this world has ever seen. It supports and feeds capitalism with its cult of individuality, a reverence of wealth and power, and its almost dogmatic need for competition in order to sort the best from the worst.

Fascism is a logical extension of this. All it does is shrink the in-group and expand the out-group.

[–] RenownedBalloonThief@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll clear that one up since everyone here seems to be boldly making inaccurate claims. They say that because media outlets and people will spend more time analyzing and critiquing Trump eating McDonalds or typing covfefe than the US, say, drone striking innocent Afghani people or the utter shit show that Libya has become due partially to the efforts of Clinton and Obama.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You could have just sait it's whataboutism.

[–] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’ve actually once seen a tankie scream something about how the “imperial coreTM” (America) allows gay marriage, codifying Obergefell into law last year just in case SCOTUS and some red-state AG decide it needs to go and make a serious attempt at it. Some of them actually do think it’s “capitalistic degeneracy”