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Artists got an unpleasant surprise when they opened Photoshop this week, as they were shown a pop-up window asking them to agree to new terms of service. Among the changes: Adobe now says it has the right to access customers’ content through “automated or manual methods.”

Now it’s true that when we use cloud services, we sacrifice a certain amount of privacy. And it’s not unusual for social networks, for example, to claim similar rights — when you share your photos on Facebook, you’re also giving Facebook the right to use those photos. But we’re not talking about your personal Facebook or Instagram photos; Photoshop is used by many, many professional artists for their livelihoods. They might also be working on sensitive or confidential material.


The moment you upload your data to some company cloud you no longer have control over it. They can use however the want it.

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Now might be a good time to start getting familiar with Krita and/or GIMP. They will have different workflows and might not fit well in every situation, but reducing reliance on user-hostile corporate terms and closed, poorly-defined file formats is likely to be worthwhile in the long run.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I use Gimp for all my Cyanotype negative making in my photography hobby. It hasn't asked me even once to see if it likes what I'm doing. It just does the thing I want it to do and waits for more.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I use Photoshop 5.5. Most of the features added since then are useless to me.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, say that to professionals whose workflow rely on the thight integration and features of Adobe's software. I'm sure migration to a piece of crap software with a S&M name that can't even do CMYK will work great.

Affinity is a good alternative still, at least until Canvas implement the subscription model (which I still believe they will do).

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

It can do color separation. I do that for cyanotype and carbon negatives. It's a little round about that someone programmed for it. That's the benefit of opensource. If you know how, you can make it quak like a duck and look like a cow. If you want it to bark but don't know how, just search to see if someone has done it or if someone will help you do it.

As a side commentary, a friend of mine owns a Cessna and flies around it. He also flies around it. And he can fly the Cessna too. Anyway, if you ever took a look at the dashboard of a 737, it looks nothing like the Cessna. But both fly pretty good. So if you wanna fly all the time without the captain telling you what peanut to chew when, then get your little Gimp plane and fly. Otherwise, you wanna do the same as the rest of the sheeple, just find your seat and ask the attendant to do the art for you while you watch how its done out the side window. I'm sure you can get paid the big bucks for that. Being sarcastic ofcourse, plus how can you concentrate with the darn open hole where the safety door used to be.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

the man is being downvoted but is right. at least suggest affinity or krita.

anyone who ever did image editing professionally knows how bad gimp's workflow is.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

the man is being downvoted but is right.

No, they are being snidely combative, both in tone and by disingenuously suggesting that their cherry-picked class of users somehow invalidates the fact that these other tools work very well for many people.

That is not being right. That is being a self-absorbed jerk.

at least suggest affinity or krita.

I did.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, I am being a jerk because GIMP gets routinely thrown around as a Photoshop alternative,which is not. You say I cherry picked a user base, but who are the people that actually pays to use Adobe Cloud? I assure you that they are mostly professionals, because the subscription is expensive.

Now, the "many people" don't need Photoshop. In fact, there's no reason they should even install it. But people say "Photoshop" and hear "GIMP" as alternative, and this should stop because the app is objectively bad. There's Krita, there's Photopea, there's Darkroom, there's myPaint, there's even Inkscape. Anything is light years ahead that thing, yet it's recommended again and again like a sad joke made to inflict pain on its users.

GIMP is not a good tool. Stop using, stop recommending it.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It all depends on what you use it for. There are many valid criticisms of GIMP but the name is such a silly one. It stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program.

If you're a professional, then you use Photoshop. But for the vast majority of people GIMP is perfectly adequate. I've done so much on there over the last 2 decades. I've done construction drawings, forged documents, removed people from pictures, used it to make it seem like pictures of receipts were scanned, etc