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    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Way to infantalize the people calling him out while excusing his childish tantrums.

    [–] arc@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    There is a difference between a rant and a tantrum. If you read the post, you could see very clearly he makes a point very forcefully.

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

    Okay. How about: don't lash out at people when you're mad.

    [–] kilinrax@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Way to infantalize ... his childish tantrums.

    Come on dude. Either there's a standard here or there isn't.

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Uh yeah. Childish behavior is childish. Holding people to a higher standard is not.

    [–] kilinrax@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    ... he hurt a few people’s fee-fees.

    Way to infantalize the people calling him out while excusing his childish tantrums.

    You're infantilizing Linus' expression of anger, just the same as the person you're replying to is infantilizing people who're upset by it.

    Either they're both bad, or they're both acceptable - or you're effectively saying that infantilization is fine, but only towards people whose behaviour you disapprove of.

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    One behavior is inherently childish. One is not.
    One is objectively the attitude of an infant and thus does not require the act of infantalization in order to be framed as such. This is not the double-standard gotcha that you think it is.

    To rephrase, one more time:
    The act of calling out childish behaviour is not childish.

    [–] kilinrax@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    One behavior is inherently childish. One is not. One is objectively the attitude of an infant and thus does not require the act of infantalization in order to be framed as such.

    No, it isn't, and this is a subjective opinion on your part. Not everyone agrees with you, so it's not objective. Even what exactly is 'childish' behaviour is subjective, and arguably culturally dependent.

    His behaviour is pretty much by definition, that of an adult. An adult with poor impulse control, poor anger management skills, sure. But childish? That's a value judgement which contains no insight likely to reach anyone. It adds nothing to the conversation.

    Use less reductionist words to explain why it's bad.

    Or to rephrase: Linus' reply isn't bad because it is childish. All calling it childish, or infantile, communicates is your own judgement.

    Also; describing your judgement as 'calling out' - particularly when this is behaviour he has since admitted was poor, and has taken time out to address - just reads like you're using the language of social justice to justify judgemental language.