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An Israeli missile has hit Iran, two US officials have told the BBC's US partner CBS News.

Iranian state media is reporting that flights have been suspended over several cities, according to Associated Press.

Iran has been on high alert after Israel said it would respond to an Iranian attack against it on Saturday night

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For those curious: it's just an analysis by the Brookings think tank. It has nothing to do with the official position of US agencies.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And for bonus points, it's basically just a list of every possible approach, starting with diplomatic approaches at the top:

  • diplomacy
  • military intervention
  • regime change
  • doing nothing at all

It's "all going to plan" in the same way "guessing all 52 cards in the deck until one of them is right" is a magic trick

Actually given your comment, it's more like someone else listing all the cards until it's right, and then just saying "tada" when they say the right one

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I just provided a link that shows sometimes those guesses have merit. But continue to dismiss those trying to provide background information. I’m sure it won’t lead us like it did in Iraq or to WW3.

Edit: Let’s look at the careers of the signees of this foreign policy document:

Kenneth M Pollack

Daniel L Byman

Martin Indyk

Suzanne Maloney

Michael O’Hanlon

Bruce Reidel

So, this paper isn’t just for fun. These people are CIA, ambassadors, advisors and served in administrations. This is the shit that gets things done in Washington. To dismiss it is negligent.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I, too, enjoy reading only half a comment.

The issue isn't "providing background context," it's presenting an advisory document of all the possible approaches to a diplomatic scenario as being some sort of conspiracy, rather than the result of some people literally just doing the job they are paid to do.

By just linking an enormous document and presenting it as if it were some massive revelation, you're basically just relying on people not bothering to read the document and accepting the inference that the document actually just says only the thing that has happened.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure. War is spontaneous, and not planned at all. It’s not a revelation or conspiracy, it’s years of groundwork and planning. I displayed that war with Iran has been in the works for at least a decade. You- it’s a conspiracy.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're (intentionally?) misunderstanding literally every sentence of my comment

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Does the document “Which Path to Persia” exist?

Is the Brookings Institute a reputable think tank that advises government foreign policy?

Does the document suggest a procedure for conflict and regime change in Iran?

If all of this is true, my statement still stands. Practically every decision America makes towards Iran has been planned and contemplated.

the result of some people literally just doing the job they are paid to do

So. A plan. Just like I stated in my original comment.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Practically every decision America makes ~~towards Iran~~ has been planned

Ftfy

No shit they consider decisions before making them lmfao

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, these people are former CIA, ambassadors, etc that have pivoted to a think tank, which is common. There is a revolving door just like in any ecosystem of industries/entities that overlap. Also, the document addresses multiple strategies.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

former CIA. lol 😂 Revolving door! Your words.

I never said this attack is in the document. I’m only showing that the Warhawks in and out of think tanks in the government have been contemplating and planning for a war with Iran.

The military and think tanks plan for everything. But no, they have no plans for Iran. Just lots of former government officials earning 3 figure salaries for funsies.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, every professional field has adjacent areas of operation. Geneticists aren't going to work in astrophysics and truck drivers aren't suddenly going to child education conferences. That's what the revolving door refers to. Shocking, I know.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because you make the revolving door sound like a nefarious scheme and I'm telling you it's the most common thing for professionals in similar fields to intermingle.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Because you make the revolving door sound like a nefarious scheme

Where?

it's the most common thing for professionals in similar fields to intermingle.

Do other professionals in similar fields overthrow sovereign governments and stage coups?

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dear ChatGPT: give me the token cringe emo teen politics take. I need to feel some pain today. Please daddy. Jfc.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yesssss. This gave me a good chuckle. 🙂

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

For those curious: the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was a think tank in D.C. that provided the blueprint for the war in Iraq.

Of the twenty-five people who signed PNAC's founding statement of principles, ten went on to serve in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, including Dick CheneyDonald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz.[8][9][10][11] Observers such as Irwin Stelzer and Dave Grondin have suggested that the PNAC played a key role in shaping the foreign policy of the Bush Administration, particularly in building support for the Iraq War.