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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

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So I figured it's about time I gave this game a shot.

I'm familiar with the series, but never really loved it, have played all previous titles but most of my time is on F3 and FNV.

I think the reason why I didn't pick this up earlier was because I didn't feel like going further into the Fallout universe, it felt like Bethesda were milking the golden cow.

Of course I'm trying it now as I picked it up cheap and the TV series has come along, of which in almost at the end of. It very much feels like the TV show is Fallout 4 on TV, but then I've never played F76.

The game is nice, very familiar to what I remember of F3 and FNV, I wonder how open it is with the perks system, or will I have to put levels into gunplay at some point?

I'm trying to stick to the main quest to start with, I've helped out the Minutemen, and then made a b-line to Diamond City before setting off to find the private detective so still pretty early on. Dogmeat is a fine companion for the road.

Any tips or suggesting for a good start, and play through?

There is a patch landing at the end of the month, so I haven't experimented with any mods just yet.

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[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's been a hot minute since I last played F4. But now that a friend of mine roped me into F76 I've been itching to get some F4 action in between the sparse F76 sessions, esp. since the big update is just around the corner.

IIRC the perks system in F4 requires you to have stats in the SPECIAL -stats to open up the stat related perks, and then choose to spend the perks points to those instead of the stats. Other perks are given as rewards from (side?) quests - if memory serves, but it's been a while.

I did enjoy the adventuring aspeects of F4, but the settlement management was pure agony. The more you build the settlements, the more attractive they become for mutant/bandit/whatever attacks. If you don't build them, the settlers moan about not having places to sleep or food to eat. Even if you build them everything, the idiot settlers can't figure out themselves to start farming if there's no food, instead they require the player to specifically assign them for the task.

Other than the settlement management, the game is great, but as it's bethesda creation it gets better with mods. I recall esp. enjoying mod which removed ambiguity from dialogue choises and just showed the actual lines instead of "snarky" or "okay" or whatever.

As far as companions go, I do enjoy "the private detective" as a companion, if I had to choose, but mostly I prefer going in alone, as the companions can be dumb as left boots. Died so many times because the idiots walk into all the traps imaginable. And the "stealth archer" doesn't need companions, they're powerful and broken like in every Bethesda -game :P

Last time I played my VATS got glitched and didn't work anymore, apparently this has something to do with vault 114 & is a known issue. Didn't bother me one bit and I kept on playing without it. IMO, the game got better without VATS.

Tips? Nah, you do you. The game turns into power fantasy regardless of what you do. But in general talk to everyone and do listen in on the radiochannels which can pop out randomly out there, there's always something cool or funny to find.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I modded the game from the first time. Since it's my first time playing it, I used Sim Settlements 2 out of the box, but I did try my hand at Settlement management without it (since its features don't unlock immediately, there's some sidequests) and it was agonizing as you describe. However with Sim Settlements 2, not only is it a breeze, but the settlements look way more interesting as well without inordinate amounts of time. I enjoy finding things to equip my settlers to fight off attacks etc.

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

...that actually sounds interesting, Might need to look into that. My original plan was just to mod in infinite carryweight and such and just pick a direction and go on an adventure but now I'm reconsidering.

So how does the sim settlements thing work, if I'm going with it, do I need to (or want to?) install all the chapters, or should I add those once "I'm done" to move it along?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can follow the quests of SS2 to unlock more stuff, but I think some of them unlock on their own? Don't have quite enough experience with it. But it provides enough out of the box that you would do the basics and then have pretty well maintained settlements anyway.

Not sure what you mean by " install all the chapters". IIRC it's just one file.

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

what I meant was that their site (https://simsettlements2.com/) lists 3 different chapters as different downloads, each newer requiring the previous ones.

haven't delved in their documentation yet, I'm assuming these are stacking changes/quests somehow, but.. dunno. I'll read into it.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Huh, I didn't even realize. Thanks!

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

for carryweight you dont even need mods. open the console once, swat in a player.modav carryweight 1000 and be done with it