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[–] MrGeekman@lemmy.world 231 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They didn’t switch to USB-C out of the goodness of their hearts. They switched because the EU passed a new law that requires that new smartphones have USB-C ports.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 151 points 1 year ago (12 children)

And they actively fought against it for as long as they could, tooth and nail.

[–] dunestorm@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s an uphill battle, why would Apple bother when just using USB-C makes sense and saves them their lawyers sanity?

[–] docmox@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Money.

Now that USB-C is the required cable, people can go out and buy any cheap cable they want. The law turned a proprietary cash cow into a low return commodity item.

[–] Redcedar@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This argument always cracks me up. I have been able to buy cheap lightning cables effectively since they started making lightning cables lol. It’s not like Apple somehow locks the phone from charging, physics is still a real thing and electricity can still flow through them, even without the MFi aspects.

If you wanna hate Apple for being a massively bloated and money-hungry corporate nightmare, that’s fine, I’m with it, but do we really all think they made it to $3 trillion valuation on… fucking cables??? 😂

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, they made it to 3 trillion with cables, overpriced PCs, overpriced notebooks, overpriced Phones, overpriced watches, and locking software of all these so the easiest way to use different devices together, is to use another apple product.

Oh, and cultivating a fan base of people who uncritically buy anything they make with the notion that it's "better than anything else" when in reality that could not be further from the truth.

[–] Redcedar@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, so you listed basically all of their business strategies, which is exactly my point. It’s not a business built SOLELY on proprietary ports and cables, yet that aspect is what gets the most attention and criticism.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say that's really accurate. It is true that it is the aspect that is getting the most attention now, but thats only because its recent, in the news and EU forced their hand upon it.

Apple among regular consumers has been criticised for years, if not decades for its overpriced hardware and among more technical crowd has always been criticised for its closed source and incompatible software.

Of course, people who say their entire empire is built upon a bunch of cables are wrong lol

[–] Redcedar@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct! For me, the closed source “walled garden” approach is the most frustrating.

But, dude, dude, dude… remember the 30-pin transition debacle? I’m having bad flashbacks lol

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I am not old enough to remember that I'm afraid. But I do still have some of those 30 pins phones and chargers

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but there has to be some reason they were so opposed to this. I don’t get it either though.

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Apple wants to keep selling overpriced cables to losers.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Apple will never do anything for any other reasons besides: regulation and profit. They try and foster this image of humanitarianism and ethics, but meanwhile they build everything in sweatshops and make their own "standards" so that their loyal customers can only use the functions they need by purchasing additional dongles.

I'm happy that they were forced into an actual standard, but I've already heard at least two apple users IRL claiming that USB-C is inferior for [insert random reasoning here]. Apple has cultivated the idea that they are above standards for a long time and it will take a long time to break.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean, just like every company that exists?

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Apple is a corporation with a market cap that rivals the GDP of France and a net income that rivals the GDP of Qatar. That much capital consolidated within a singular private entity doesn't just make them any other company. Their profit seeking is wildly, wildly different than a vast majority of any other company today.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple fanboys are the most frustrating people to talk to.

They find any illogical reason to justify what apple does.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Go on. What does Apple do that is uniquely Apple that fanbois justify?

[–] SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was that a typo, or did you intentionally spell fanboys with an I?

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Intentionally, because I’m down with the kids, innit?

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Please, it's pronounced 'fan-bwa'.

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The only reason they pass on an image of ethical environmentaly friendly company is because its good for business. People like that shit the products are good people buy. Its that simple. Companies give no shit about people or the planet.

[–] MrGeekman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I know. That's my point. A great example of this is when they used to brag about how eco-friendly their product were. I remember them bragging about their displays being mercury-free, BFR free, etc and their laptops having totally recyclable aluminum and glass enclosures - only to later deliberately make their laptops nearly impossible to repair and upgrade.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)