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[–] CultHero@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

When you don't vote you are voting for the guy who wins.

You hate trump but you hate the other guy too. You don't vote. That's one more vote not going against the guy who wins.

Say you have 100 people voting. 60 people decide not to vote. Out of the 40 people who vote 25 vote for guy A and 15 vote for guy B. Guy A wins majority even though only 25 people out of 100 voted for him. This means that guy A caters to the 25 people who voted for him and the 60 people who didn't bother to vote get zero representation even though they're the majority.

If the 60 people who didn't vote decided "he's not great but he's better than guy A I will vote for guy B" guy B would win with 75 votes, an actual majority.

Sometimes it's better to vote for the lesser of two evils and push the not great guy to do better than to just resign your fate to the worst guy and let the entire thing just burn.

[–] Soulcreator@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That may be true and all but I take it you didn't read the article, because that not what it was about.

They polled people and those who are regularly vote in past elections tend to be pro Biden, those whom hadn't voted in recent elections tended to be pro Trump.

Which is ironic because if everyone just got out and voted we might just have a send Trump presidency on our hands. I could be wrong, but I suspect that's the opposite of what you are thinking would happen.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

need I remind you that Trump lost the popular vote and won? With 100% (99.99%...) then it likely wouldn't have been so close. Trump won because of voter apathy towards HRC.

Also your comment doesn't take into account voter suppression, disenfranchisement and gerrymandering- all of which are self evidently powerful by token of how common they are.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

President Joe Biden performed much better among frequent voters, while Trump had a large lead among people who haven't voted recently.

Yes, it seems you are correct; according to this article if you want Biden to win you have to tell people NOT to vote. I imagine (I don't have numbers) this is the opposite of what most of us expected.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago

He's in office right now, the time to push was the last three and a half years and for the next 6 months.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I feel like if I pushed Biden on anything he'd fall over and break a hip.

Still voting for him tho