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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Countries will get fed up of sending aid to Ukraine long before Russia decides to return its annexed territories. We're already seeing signs of that.

If NATO isn't willing to go in and force the Russians out themselves, I fail to see how this war is anything but a net gain for Russia. They will just sit back and let their "new territories" become more and more Russified.

To me, the aid is just a delaying tactic to allow Ukraine to continue fighting until the west can figure out a way to accept that Ukraine has lost its territories without losing face.

It's a shit show, but I don't share the optimism that a lot of people have for a Ukrainian victory. It's like a game of chess, and it's currently Ukraine/NATOs turn, because the Russians are already dug in.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

I mean yeah, the Russian Federation has clearly won this one

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They will just sit back and let their "new territories" become more and more Russified.

The majority people who live there and have always lived there are Russian

It's like a game of chess,

No it really isn't. Its a proxy war forced by US aggression (2014 coup and NATO encirlement). The US achieved its primary goals - 1) to stop its European vassals (primarily Germany) from gaining energy independence through trade with the Russian Federation and get them back in line 2) to sell old weapon stocks/war profiteering for defense industry and make room for new weapons stores/more profits for defense industry.

The fact they've met these goals is the main reason why funding will stop, because there is no reason to fund Ukraine anymore. The US has won - Ukraine was always going to lose in this scenario.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

Over 100k dead Russians isn't really a "net victory" regardless of territory gained