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‘Hell on Earth’: famine nears in northern Gaza despite Israeli aid pledges
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 09 Apr 2024
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Again this shit? There's a reason Hamas has been rejecting the US's "ceasefires", and that's because there's no mechanism to prevent Israel from attacking Rafah after it ends. Israel has been clear they'll attack Rafah either way. So throwing away all their leverage (also known as hope for a slightly less miserable future) for a pause in the genocide would just be stupid. Hamas has already stated the ceasefire they want and Israel has rejected it time and time again.
Are you actually arguing that Hamas is a legit governing entity with reasonable goals that include the well being of Palestinian citizens?
I mean yes. They're a dictatorship, don't get me wrong, and terrorists depending on who you ask, but the idea that they don't give two shits about Palestinians and want the conflict with Israel to continue forever is simply not supported by anything from the last 20 years. Hamas can best be thought of as the Palestinian version of the Troubles IRA, and while the IRA was... That I don't think you can argue that they didn't want the well being of the Irish people.
Depending who you ask?
The levels of delusion on this topic has gone wild on here.
Uh... Literally yes. They'd not considered a terrorist organization in the UN, for example. Whether Hamas is a terrorist organization was never as clear cut as the US and Israel would want you to believe. Not that it matters, but there you go.
You're willing to look at them and say you don't think they're a terrorist organization? And you expect to be taken seriously?
They're doing similar things to the IDF.
I put them both in the terrorist state category.
Both terrorists, both governments.
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I mean so does the UN. Anyway I recognize they do terror, but calling them a terrorist organization would be a denunciation of all their actions, not just the terror, so they're in a weird spot.
“A mind so open their brains fell out” comes to mind.
From what we heard about the Iranian government informing the families that the hostages are dead, it looks like Hamas rejected the ceasefire because they aren't ready yet to admit they murdered the remaining hostages.
Hamas is free to give a proof of life if they have that capability.
Edit: ya'll can downvote but you won't say shit because you know it is true. Hamas murdered the hostages and instead of admitting it they are choosing to continue to allow innocent Palestinians to die. This is who you guys have joined the side of.
Uh... What? Why the fuck would they even do that?
I highly doubt they fed the hostages when their own people are starving so honestly you can thank Israel for that mess lmao
It's a crime against humanity to not feed hostages. It is also a crime to rape them.
You pro-hamas people should at least make an attempt to hide your motivations.
I'm certain you wouldn't want to compare their kill-counts as 2 nations lmao
I could be mistaken but it appears you are attempting to either change the conversation to more benefit you and ignore uncomfortable facts about your boys,
OR,
You are implying Hamas gets to rape, torture, starve and kill because Israel is worse.
If either of those two are correct, I think the conversation is over. If a third option, please say
Let's address just the starvation, because that was legit the only topic of conversation.
If Israel doesn't let supplies in, how tf is "Hamas" supposed to feed their prisoners of "war?"
They're "starving" the prisoners because they themselves can't eat. Don't be dense.