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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a highly concerning allegation, and it does explain some interesting results I've noticed lately. I've wondered why, especially when searching for products, an expected result isn't there unless I invoke it by name. I'd chalked it up to their competition having more mindshare and thus a higher page rank score. Now I'm not so sure.

Worse, it somewhat supports claims that the far-right has been making, although those claims still completely miss the mark.

[–] rgb3x3@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What annoys me most is that you'll get that product carousel at the top of sponsored products that aren't what you want, then 3 or 4 results of sponsored links, then maybe you get the actual thing in the 5th real result.

It's a really bad search experience.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's my experience of it too, and yet the Google users I know refuse to try anything else because they insist every other search engine gives useless results while Google gets it right. Perhaps it depends what kinds of things you tend to search for, but I usually do better with Duck Duck Go, and sometimes even with Bing. People's love for Google search at this point has to be based in how it used to be, not how it is today.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've thought the same thing, and I've concluded there must be a significant percentage of people who use search engines in a completely different way than I do. Like my dad saying to his tablet, "Ok google, play [song from the 1960s]." If people think this is what a search engine is supposed to do, then I imagine a search engine that actually behaves like a search engine would be pretty disappointing.

[–] chris@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think this is it. Google has done an incredible job of making sure you can accomplish a huge amount with very little friction… so long as you do it with their products and give them your data. If that fits your goal, there’s no denying that going all-in on Google is going to work well for you.

If all you want is a place to enter text and get a page of links, not so much.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which far right claims are you saying it’s supporting?

[–] Saxoboneless@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the claims I've heard irl are something along the lines of "can't trust Google search results, they're censoring 'em!" I figure the things they're mad Google "censors" are probably literal or borderline fascist content - and I also tend to assume they're probably misusing the word censor. I think the tenuous connection here is just that yeah Google is probably doing some shady stuff with their search results.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, pretty much this. A lot are upset that when you Google for something like vaccine safety, your top results are things like the CDC and the WHO instead of their favorite Bigfoot hunter conspiracy theorist.

And for some reason, they all seem to act like there's an actual person on the other side, individually restricting results.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

unintelligable nonsense Big Tech unintelligable nonsense